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Crepuscular

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65. That is different

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 08:38 PM

Jun 2016

from your original proposal, which limited the magazine capacity for semi-auto weapons. So you are saying the the new manufacture of detached magazines for pump rifles would also be limited to ten rounds?

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Why not require semi-auto rifles to be modified to fixed magazine weapons in all future sales. [View all] NutmegYankee Jun 2016 OP

Yikes. I take it you are not a gun person. yourpaljoey Jun 2016 #1

Yeah, it has quite the reputation of civilian use mowing down children and unarmed people en-mass. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author Brickbat Jun 2016 #25

Must be why rifles kill about 400/year Press Virginia Jun 2016 #26

There you go, let's not forget restricting semi-auto pistols too. Hoyt Jun 2016 #33

I doubt you could identify one Press Virginia Jun 2016 #68

Can still field strip a 1911 blindfolded, but I grew up. Hoyt Jun 2016 #71

Sure you can Press Virginia Jun 2016 #72

He saw it on YouTube Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #77

Probably an R Lee Ermy video Press Virginia Jun 2016 #82

I have hunted all my life Drahthaardogs Jun 2016 #64

The AR10 is better for large game Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #78

That is a .308 Drahthaardogs Jun 2016 #79

My gut says their is no putting the gun genie back in the bottle. Best chance of .. yourout Jun 2016 #2

That is blatantly unconstitutional hack89 Jun 2016 #3

Works for abortion fifthoffive Jun 2016 #84

So you will embrace RW tactics to restrict civil rights hack89 Jun 2016 #87

and look how the melm00se Jun 2016 #88

Won't happen- it was tried with printers' ink and got booted by the Supreme Court: friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #4

While I agree it will probably never happen I am not sure this case.... yourout Jun 2016 #7

The Second Amendment is extant, and a blatant attempt to impede rights under it... friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #10

That wouldn't stop the mass murder. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #6

Respectfully, do you have a proposal? (n/t) PJMcK Jun 2016 #59

Yeah, the thread I started... NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #60

Zero chance of that passing Constitutional muster. Just reading posts Jun 2016 #8

Thomas Jefferson... jmg257 Jun 2016 #13

Do you have any idea how easy it is to load your own ammo? cleanhippie Jun 2016 #43

sshhh ! don't le them know... Angel Martin Jun 2016 #73

Something like the laws on safeinOhio Jun 2016 #5

This was exactly what I was thinking of when I decided to write this. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #9

It's pretty interesting that an AMENDMENT to the constitution, which changes the original document jmg257 Jun 2016 #12

Like any other product on the market - grandfathering. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #14

Pay for them? ncjustice80 Jun 2016 #16

Taking previously legal property requires just compensation by law. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #18

We dont pay fair market for cocaine. ncjustice80 Jun 2016 #21

The cocaine wasn't legal to own when acquired as it is a perishable good. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #23

Cocaine isn't a constitutional right. cleanhippie Jun 2016 #45

It's simpler than that though. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #54

I thought a tax deduction could work as a way of buy-back. nt jmg257 Jun 2016 #19

unless you are willing to compensate way over pre-ban market value, few will be turned in Amishman Jun 2016 #86

What if you need two shots to protect your life? ileus Jun 2016 #36

Unfortunate but unlikely. That argument leads to "what if I need 50 shots to save my life?" ncjustice80 Jun 2016 #76

If you can get in there something that will bring about an attrition jmg257 Jun 2016 #17

I don't see it as an infringement on the right to own. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #15

Then mass killers will use handguns like at VT. Nt hack89 Jun 2016 #20

That killer had a lot of 15 round mags. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #22

Perhaps hack89 Jun 2016 #24

No. But they will tend to get collected by people who are far less likely to do a mass shooting. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #27

Not sure I agree with that hack89 Jun 2016 #29

It wouldn't prevent all, but it would make it harder. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #31

So require fixed internal magazines for handguns Recursion Jun 2016 #46

Hard to imagine a "solution " more detached from reality. hack89 Jun 2016 #50

Why? 30% of adults don't automatically get to make the decision here Recursion Jun 2016 #53

If 100% of the population voted you might have a point. hack89 Jun 2016 #56

So Crepuscular Jun 2016 #28

Banning future sale of detachable mag semi-auto rifles. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #30

So under your proposal Crepuscular Jun 2016 #32

Yes. Pump action is still slower than semi-auto. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #34

Not much Crepuscular Jun 2016 #37

If you say pump action is just as effective, why allow semi-auto at all? NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #41

Why bother to argue? Replace "Semi-auto" with "repeating arm" with fixed mags and be done. nt jmg257 Jun 2016 #47

Because Crepuscular Jun 2016 #49

I think it would slow it down. Remember all magazines for new rifles would be limited to 10 rounds NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #51

Why Crepuscular Jun 2016 #55

People would collect and hoard them, reducing pre-ban 11+ round mags out in the market. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #58

That is different Crepuscular Jun 2016 #65

Yeah, if that wasn't clear that was my mistake. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #66

If that's the case, Crepuscular Jun 2016 #67

Make newer rifles harder to kill with, even if you find pre-ban mags. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #69

I believe the Tech Shooter also changed clips. ncjustice80 Jun 2016 #75

That was the outlier I mentioned. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #90

... Crepuscular Jun 2016 #83

I personally think the action argument is a red herring: the problem is the detachable magazine Recursion Jun 2016 #44

While Crepuscular Jun 2016 #52

99% of murderers never need to go past the first bullet; the entire argument is window-dressing Recursion Jun 2016 #57

I don't disagree Crepuscular Jun 2016 #61

Remember the Navy Yard shooting? Recursion Jun 2016 #62

I don't believe this is possible. A gun owner can correct me. Oneironaut Jun 2016 #35

Manufacturers are already making some for the NY and Conn. markets. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #39

This one is a pretty feasible redesign Recursion Jun 2016 #42

The rise of 3D printing makes any such ban completely pointless. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #63

the world supply of AR/Ak rifles is so large that Angel Martin Jun 2016 #74

People do not convert semi-automatic to full auto all the time Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #80

People do not convert from semi-auto to auto "all the time" metalbot Jun 2016 #91

Oh no the NRA won't permit that, Muricans need a 30 round detachable magazine in case doc03 Jun 2016 #38

CA has something similar to this already (it's a bit weaker than you're suggesting) Recursion Jun 2016 #40

Yeah. I'm trying to avoid the "bullet Button". NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #48

Freaks that get a hard on blasting trees, bunnies, deer, and sometimes people would have a cow. nt JanMichael Jun 2016 #70

You assume Congress will regulate guns. They won't. Period. No regulation. Kablooie Jun 2016 #81

It would take a long time to implement Dem2 Jun 2016 #85

Even a round limit for detachable mags didn't fly after Sandy Hook. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #89