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baldguy

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42. What I'm suggesting is that rights are not absolute.

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 09:56 PM

Jun 2016

And that they are limited when the harm other people. Responsible practitioners of those rights will act to limit themselves to prevent harm. And since firearms owners want no limits on their rights - AND ACTIVELY CAMPAIGN AGAINST LIMITS - firearms harm more people than they help.

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A Realistic Gun Policy Proposal [View all] Kang Colby Jun 2016 OP

One Gun - One Bullet RobertEarl Jun 2016 #1

Yeah, right. n/t Kang Colby Jun 2016 #2

+1. Much better idea. Gunners can still stroke their weapons, hunt, target shoot, etc. Hoyt Jun 2016 #3

LOL... Kang Colby Jun 2016 #7

Those are the guns the 2nd Amendment was written for. baldguy Jun 2016 #9

A standard for one is the standard for the rest... pipoman Jun 2016 #14

Lol Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #22

We've tried it your way. It's been a spectacular, murderous, bloody failure. baldguy Jun 2016 #33

It's not my way, it's our way....like it or not pipoman Jun 2016 #37

What I'm suggesting is that rights are not absolute. baldguy Jun 2016 #42

Yeah, and you know that there is a complete volume of "limits" already in place pipoman Jun 2016 #43

No limits, lol Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #47

All of this 'greater good' nonsense is emotional fluff... TipTok Jun 2016 #49

Right, they're so responsible that America has 38,000 gun deaths each year. baldguy Jun 2016 #52

10s of millions of gun owners... TipTok Jun 2016 #54

Last I heard 33k was the number being used. And of course, 2/3rds of those are suicides. Waldorf Jun 2016 #57

Like that makes a difference. Just proves that gun owners are not, in fact, responsible. baldguy Jun 2016 #60

What do you think about the proposal in the OP? n/t Kang Colby Jun 2016 #56

And this is why no progress gets made. Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #10

So true, how long before the sexual insults? Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #12

Very soon Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #16

Becuse some reject reason RobertEarl Jun 2016 #18

My gun range is unattended, on 500 acres in the middle of nowhere Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #28

I already keep mine locked up at the range house. oneshooter Jun 2016 #63

Id love to see the day you make a coherent and rational argument. cleanhippie Jun 2016 #19

Would require you were able to read, no? RobertEarl Jun 2016 #24

Oh, I can read. I can read the incoherent, nonsensical drivel, as well as the childish insults. cleanhippie Jun 2016 #26

You can read your own posts? RobertEarl Jun 2016 #27

QED cleanhippie Jun 2016 #62

You are correct, by that time they will only be in museums. We will have phasers instead. Waldorf Jun 2016 #53

Who will make sure all guns smuggled across our open borders... cherokeeprogressive Jun 2016 #61

IBTL pipoman Jun 2016 #4

Probably so Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #6

He's toast pipoman Jun 2016 #8

"Do not think about arguing" pintobean Jun 2016 #30

Yep, an angry one too Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #34

Maybe so...Duckhunter. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #40

At least you tried Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #41

If it weren't for the good folks in GC&RKBA...I wouldn't bother. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #44

A great group Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #50

The best I ever did see. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #55

It wouldn't be mandatory. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #15

I agree, and there should be immunity from civil or criminal pipoman Jun 2016 #31

Concur. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #36

Like it Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #5

I wouldn't mind having a buyer Kang Colby Jun 2016 #11

Just sell through an FFL, if you really care about ensuring your guns don't go to Hoyt Jun 2016 #13

Most all of the spree killers did just that Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #17

Yep they were all legal RobertEarl Jun 2016 #21

I would rather give people a self serve option. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #20

Problem is, you don't have the accountability of an FFL, record keeping system, and any dick could Hoyt Jun 2016 #29

Hoyt, all of what you said is basically an opinion. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #38

Don't care about 2016, there's always next year. In the meantime, let's expose gunners for what Hoyt Jun 2016 #58

So rather than improve the system, you want to make gun owners look bad? Kang Colby Jun 2016 #59

I'd be down with that. linuxman Jun 2016 #23

No issue with that. n/t Kang Colby Jun 2016 #25

Agreed Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #35

My solution. Sensible, I think. Shemp Howard Jun 2016 #32

That will likely never become federal legislation. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #39

A ban not linked to any guarantee of rights, that would be unrealistic. (nt) Shemp Howard Jun 2016 #46

In all due respect, I politely disagree. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #51

Harsher penalties and stricter enforcement of 'straw purchases' Heeeeers Johnny Jun 2016 #45

I agree with most of that. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #48