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JustAnotherGen

(31,681 posts)
147. Well I'm a woman
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 04:05 AM
Jun 2016

Last edited Wed Jun 15, 2016, 04:40 AM - Edit history (1)

Let's say I've been sexually assaulted and I'm now pregnant and being told I have to wait.

Sure is cheaper and easier to have a gun cleaning accident that doesn't fatally wound me to solve the problem. Accidents with guns happen all the time.

Would be interesting what Guns and Gods Intersection Freaks would do with that one. Or if a woman took a military level gun to a Focus on the Family event.

I'm not advocating anything so horrific - But it is only a matter of time. Gun massacres are now the norm and sooner or later it is going to catch the strongest advocate groups in the ass. I won't be praying when that happens.

This country can take its prayer memes and shove it up its collective asses. The prayers don't work so get God out of our vaginas and take your guns to church.

Do not think about arguing [View all] uppityperson Jun 2016 OP
a kick uppityperson Jun 2016 #1
K&R demmiblue Jun 2016 #2
Perhaps some context would help SuperDutyTX Jun 2016 #3
there is a time and place for every argument. passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #11
If it's time to discuss legislation, it's time to discuss technical accuracy... Marengo Jun 2016 #15
That has happened JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #53
Yep, my point exactly. The absolute ignorance of those pieces of legislation... Marengo Jun 2016 #126
Well I'm a woman JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #147
Not really. People can express the size and the shape of the thing they want without technical DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2016 #125
Sure, anyone can bring anything to the table. But, if demands are based on ignorance, it's.. Marengo Jun 2016 #128
spot on Locrian Jun 2016 #149
Are you suggesting that DU will write legislation? Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #176
Rubbish. Go ahead and apply the stifling argument in a discussion concerning... Marengo Jun 2016 #179
Thank you. uppityperson Jun 2016 #16
Agreed. So why are so many arguing for gun bans? cleanhippie Jun 2016 #18
Respectfully SuperDutyTX Jun 2016 #20
SuperDutyTX, I understand what you are trying to say and I concur. Stonepounder Jun 2016 #68
"assault weapon" is used becasue it is a gray area, and has no meaning in law. As far as I know... Matt_R Jun 2016 #89
I think it's a moot point, as I don't expect to see any meaningful regulation Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #92
In my opinion lancer78 Jun 2016 #114
I don't think anyone is saying that. Stonepounder Jun 2016 #117
I read a lot here, but lancer78 Jun 2016 #119
I think it would be nice if you let us have our funerals Mojorabbit Jun 2016 #118
Were you addressing me? nt passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #135
No, sorry. It is just so jarring when things are still really raw here. nt Mojorabbit Jun 2016 #136
I understand. passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #137
Let's ban civilian sales of assault weapons. yallerdawg Jun 2016 #14
Vent away, but you just stepped into the trap. ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #30
Assault weapons. yallerdawg Jun 2016 #32
Of all the variations on the definition of "assault weapon" ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #34
Assault weapon. yallerdawg Jun 2016 #37
Wow. They really got that one wrong. ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #39
How bad of a damn shot do you have to be Aerows Jun 2016 #58
I completely take your point, but the "but" here is important: Recursion Jun 2016 #74
What makes you believe that magazine capacity is related to shooter accuracy? ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #75
? blue neen Jun 2016 #95
Paper targets, steel targets, etc. ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #101
Paper targets don't have hearts and lungs and brains. blue neen Jun 2016 #108
Glad we understand paper targets. ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #116
Precisely the point I was making to the person above you Aerows Jun 2016 #112
Training, hunting.... ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #120
"I don't hunt anymore" Aerows Jun 2016 #134
You seem to be suggesting that some guns were "designed for hunting". ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #140
It looks like Aerows Jun 2016 #141
While you could use that tool, it would not be the ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #143
And we've arrived at our destination. n/t Aerows Jun 2016 #144
Thanks, if not for you, an anonymous poster on a internet forum, I would have totally A Simple Game Jun 2016 #154
No, that is neither how it is supposed to work nor actually does work. ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #157
"the idiots who created the artificial definition of "assault weapon". Damn Gun Digest - those jmg257 Jun 2016 #160
Yes, that particular list does contain some ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #161
Do us all a favor and give us your definition of an assault weapon. A Simple Game Jun 2016 #173
I have no definition of "assault weapon". ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #177
You do realize that there were assault weapons even before gunpowder was invented don't you? A Simple Game Jun 2016 #180
Obviously you are not using the phrase the way everyone else is. ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #181
So according to you a weapon is a weapon is a weapon and that's all there is to it? A Simple Game Jun 2016 #182
Thank you for confirming your non-standard use of the phrase. ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #183
OK I'll lower myself to play your semantics game. A Simple Game Jun 2016 #185
I cannot take credit for any semantics game. ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #186
If you can't grasp the concept of categories of weapons then there is no sense in continuing A Simple Game Jun 2016 #187
Sorry that the conversation is not going your way. ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #188
In my case talking with someone that doesn't admit a assault rifle A Simple Game Jun 2016 #189
Thank you for at least admitting your ignorance. ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #191
OK just one more time because it seems you are trying. A Simple Game Jun 2016 #193
Thanks for taking the next step. ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #194
Maybe you guys should start with the "legal" definitons..may vary depending what jurisdiction, jmg257 Jun 2016 #190
No argument there regarding NY. ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #192
But, we tried that already and it didn't work. Major Hogwash Jun 2016 #70
Hm. I feel the opposite: handguns are the real problem in the US Recursion Jun 2016 #73
Yet, you are including suicides in the figure that you're using for all gun deaths. Major Hogwash Jun 2016 #87
Even in mass murders, handguns have a slight majority Recursion Jun 2016 #88
The gun manufacturers did away with some of the offending characteristics . . . Major Hogwash Jun 2016 #99
And your last sentence is the most important thing on the thread, I think Recursion Jun 2016 #100
The AMA has finally taken a stand to restrict gun ownership. Jim Beard Jun 2016 #107
We didn't fail to go to the moon Aerows Jun 2016 #113
And there we go lancer78 Jun 2016 #115
Let's do OwlinAZ Jun 2016 #152
TX bigot language suks, imo saidsimplesimon Jun 2016 #28
If gun trolls and the NRA would get out of the way, there is no doubt in my mind that Squinch Jun 2016 #42
+1 Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2016 #52
Thanks! SuperDutyTX Jun 2016 #56
You have completely missed the point. The point was that you have an opinion about these topics Squinch Jun 2016 #59
Thanks! SuperDutyTX Jun 2016 #62
No, actually it really wouldn't be like that at all. It would be like saying, "we don't want these Squinch Jun 2016 #63
Sounds like we're at an impasse. SuperDutyTX Jun 2016 #64
Some of us lancer78 Jun 2016 #129
You always seem to emerge from somewhere when these massacres happen, just to tell Squinch Jun 2016 #164
Your civility is admirable PJMcK Jun 2016 #54
NRA REPORTING FOR DUTY Skittles Jun 2016 #77
Exactly. Squinch Jun 2016 #105
I see where you're going with this. Bucky Jun 2016 #122
Any weapon that can do THAT needs to go away stopwastingmymoney Jun 2016 #142
Then get a Democrat to propose a bill that makes them go away Recursion Jun 2016 #146
agree treestar Jun 2016 #4
Understood. But what about forums where legislation is being discussed (A LOT)? jmg257 Jun 2016 #5
As I said in the OP Yes, those terms matter for legislation, but not on forums, not on Facebook, not uppityperson Jun 2016 #6
OK but they matter if people's ignorance of the subject means they're going in literally Recursion Jun 2016 #71
Pls forgive my ignorance-- lastlib Jun 2016 #82
Accepting detachable magazines Recursion Jun 2016 #84
Why perpetuate ignorance? TipTok Jun 2016 #139
+1, any device DESIGNED to kill a lot of humans efficiently shouldn't be in the hands of avg citizen uponit7771 Jun 2016 #7
That's a principle I can be on board with. BUT Recursion Jun 2016 #72
+1000. n/t pnwmom Jun 2016 #8
God, YES! I have moaned about the semantics war being used by Photographer Jun 2016 #9
K&R! Duval Jun 2016 #10
Your argument is more effective if you use actual facts, accepted terms and language to support it. Android3.14 Jun 2016 #12
You're exactly what the post is talking about. You missed the point, entirely. Ignore. lindysalsagal Jun 2016 #38
He didn't miss the point. Chellee Jun 2016 #61
For the record, I also loathe that sort of pedantic deflection. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #13
Precisely, it is all Bettie Jun 2016 #67
OK, but this detail really, really, really matters to the OP's cause Recursion Jun 2016 #78
They do that to discredit the messenger ErikJ Jun 2016 #17
"to make him look like he doesnt know what he's talking about" AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #21
Only to a gun-nut techy geek. ErikJ Jun 2016 #23
Let me let you in on a secret AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #26
It does SuperDutyTX Jun 2016 #27
I said situations like these. ErikJ Jun 2016 #31
The AR platform in the right configuration, such as the AR-10, is an excellent hunting rifle... Marengo Jun 2016 #41
Greatly reduced Aussy suicide and mass shootings. ErikJ Jun 2016 #47
I've heard that as well, but in researching found several studies which suggest... Marengo Jun 2016 #123
Your last point is crucial: Australia targeted all semi-automatics Recursion Jun 2016 #80
The OP is talking about the kinds of firearms that can be used to kill hundreds in minutes. Squinch Jun 2016 #65
No, the OP *thinks* he or she is talking about that Recursion Jun 2016 #79
You can read my mind?!?!!!! uppityperson Jun 2016 #81
I can read your posts Recursion Jun 2016 #86
I support not being able to kill 49 people in a short period of time. I don't use uppityperson Jun 2016 #90
OK, so step 1 is coming to terms with the fact that we need a new law to do that Recursion Jun 2016 #94
I am in agreement with you. Doing the wrong thing doesn't help. uppityperson Jun 2016 #97
That's because the NRA and gun lobbies were allowed to write the legislation. Squinch Jun 2016 #93
I posted this on truth-out.org and it was REMOVED ... Jopin Klobe Jun 2016 #19
What makes you think people who are disgusted with guns being used in mass shootings passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #24
"recreate the feeling of automatic firing" but not the accuracy. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #29
This is not the right thread for that video. Would you please consider posting it elsewhere? uppityperson Jun 2016 #36
K and r. cwydro Jun 2016 #22
I just heard this Jackson Browne song for the first time today bonemachine Jun 2016 #25
This technical diversion shit means nothing when some maniac The_Casual_Observer Jun 2016 #33
Exactly, thank you uppityperson Jun 2016 #57
Rec & Kick. Well stated. MerryBlooms Jun 2016 #35
Anyone who uses any of the following arguments is a troll and should be ignored completely. Squinch Jun 2016 #40
As if you have the authority to set any rules on this discussion... Marengo Jun 2016 #43
Simply expressing my opinion. I am sorry if that offends you. uppityperson Jun 2016 #50
Why are NRA / 2A so entrenched ? karadax Jun 2016 #44
Yes, those terms matter for legislation uppityperson Jun 2016 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author Sissyk Jun 2016 #45
Best wishes to your niece, hoping she regains her equilibrium. uppityperson Jun 2016 #51
But what about the zombies? ErikJ Jun 2016 #48
A right wing friend failed an attempt to bait me. edgineered Jun 2016 #49
The distinction between a semi-automatic weapon and fully automatic AR 15 means very little to the still_one Jun 2016 #55
People who espouse opinions on guns with no clue how they work sound as clueless and out of touch Lee-Lee Jun 2016 #60
You won't take my opinion seriously that too many were killed too fast by a murderous jerk and his uppityperson Jun 2016 #66
I believe it was both. And I believe that this one and the one who said, "You Squinch Jun 2016 #69
It is all about how you express your opinion. ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #85
Let's make this simple. I don't like people having access to guns that can kill that many people uppityperson Jun 2016 #91
We care about actually addressing the problem rather than appearing to Recursion Jun 2016 #96
An excellent example of a non-technical statement. ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #98
Therefore....what? Confiscate all repeating firearms? Just reading posts Jun 2016 #145
One could carry the logic that far. ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #158
Good point. While I disagree with imposing more gun control, I can at least see a rationale behind Just reading posts Jun 2016 #159
Lol, 50 dead and you whine about this? Logical Jun 2016 #132
they are cowards Skittles Jun 2016 #76
It usually matters. Words have meanings even on DU. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #83
A 5 or 6 shot revolver could NEVER kill that many people. A double barrel shotgun the same. JanMichael Jun 2016 #102
A person with a essme Jun 2016 #103
Bullshit. Less accuracy and less kill velocity. That has never happened. JanMichael Jun 2016 #109
I really, really want one of these essme Jun 2016 #111
The Va tech shooter used pistols and killed nearly as many people jack_krass Jun 2016 #150
Ah but how different was the total number of casualties? JanMichael Jun 2016 #166
Sandy Hook would have been much worse with an AK-47 clone. ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #167
Then ban them first? nt JanMichael Jun 2016 #168
Why first? ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #169
You just said that the AK-47 knockoffs would kill more than the 20 or so little kids. JanMichael Jun 2016 #171
No, that is not what I said. ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #172
See Virginia tech Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #153
Not a revolver though, huh? JanMichael Jun 2016 #170
. Squinch Jun 2016 #110
Exactly. Time we start treating gunners like dung, rather than coddling them and their sick junk. Hoyt Jun 2016 #104
You, Sir... 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #106
K&R Dem2 Jun 2016 #121
Oh yes, this^^^^^ Arazi Jun 2016 #124
It's like a goddamn Tom Clancy novel for the gunner trash alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #127
it is easy to see why they support Trump Skittles Jun 2016 #148
This message was self-deleted by its author Lint Head Jun 2016 #130
huh, thanks for the kick but maybe to the wrong thread? uppityperson Jun 2016 #131
Thanks. Fumbled fingered tonight. Lint Head Jun 2016 #133
Too late... TipTok Jun 2016 #138
And the question remains - how many more before we do something? liberal N proud Jun 2016 #151
k and r niyad Jun 2016 #155
distractive bullshit heaven05 Jun 2016 #156
It's like claiming the argument against a nuke murdering millions is invalid.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2016 #162
"but you look foolish and how can you ask for something without being accurate" uppityperson Jun 2016 #163
Another way of putting it.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2016 #165
Strongest recommendation suffragette Jun 2016 #174
You are welcome. I still feel that way, 2 date later. I'm getting angry now,past shocked pain, but uppityperson Jun 2016 #175
There's a reason some on here refer to it as a 'trap' suffragette Jun 2016 #178
You will get no argument from me! Initech Jun 2016 #184
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