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61. So true, sometimes stuff just happens. Nt

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Another tragedy in Orlando: Alligator drags 2 year old into the water at Disney World [View all] davidn3600 Jun 2016 OP

Disney will now be forced to close all it's beaches forever FLPanhandle Jun 2016 #1

Beaches aren't open for swimming at Disney. Doremus Jun 2016 #107

They had already killed four....... Amaril Jun 2016 #170

Orlando is having a bad few days, this is crazy. joshcryer Jun 2016 #2

easily preventable by staying away from water that could harbor gators beachbum bob Jun 2016 #3

One would think BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #5

I know, and why this is such a tragedy beachbum bob Jun 2016 #6

Ha, expecting people to actually read signs? Odin2005 Jun 2016 #15

Either that or they seem to BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #18

Too MUCH signage is often the problem. randome Jun 2016 #57

The signs say nothing about wading in the water MosheFeingold Jun 2016 #148

I wonder if there will be a backlash against these parents from Nebraska like the ones with the ape adigal Jun 2016 #52

Unrec. nt B2G Jun 2016 #53

Really? Unrec? That's a valid question. nt adigal Jun 2016 #68

The 2 situations are not even remotely equatable. nt B2G Jun 2016 #72

I disagree. Parents ignored a No Swimming sign while on a beach in the evening adigal Jun 2016 #75

He wasn't swimming B2G Jun 2016 #78

The poor child was in the water. As I said in another post, I have a vivid imagination adigal Jun 2016 #81

In the "Magic Kingdom" I doubt anyone would think it wasn't controlled jberryhill Jun 2016 #127

If you saw the presser yesterday... Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2016 #171

the toddler wasn't swimming; he was wading. not the same thing magical thyme Jun 2016 #89

Gators don't live in salt water, so no problem at beaches. cwydro Jun 2016 #119

I've only been to Florida once in my life magical thyme Jun 2016 #166

"wading" is generous - the reports say "ankle deep" on a two year old jberryhill Jun 2016 #125

Most Floridians would know that the chance for gators exists in any body of non chlorinated water Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2016 #138

of course Floridians would know. But when you are host to tourists from outside Florida magical thyme Jun 2016 #167

You gotta see the layout of this place jberryhill Jun 2016 #124

Jeez! All those kids were in the water, at least by the shore. adigal Jun 2016 #151

ITA - +10000 JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #85

No one could ever swim in Florida again! csziggy Jun 2016 #13

Not only gators, but snakes! davidn3600 Jun 2016 #26

When I was a kid we'd go to my grandmother's lakeside house every Sunday csziggy Jun 2016 #37

Put moth balls all around the outside of the house and around my land area yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #41

Gators have accosted people jogging forgotmylogin Jun 2016 #50

Florida rule 1. If there is water, there will be gators liberal N proud Jun 2016 #4

I do feel for them. BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #7

The family is from Nebraska - they didn't know about gators csziggy Jun 2016 #17

"The family is from Nebraska - they didn't know about gators" - that's a good point. PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #30

The news now is that Disney is going to close every beach in the park csziggy Jun 2016 #39

And you probably don't know how they behave Mariana Jun 2016 #152

Just because a person is not from Florida does not mean avebury Jun 2016 #106

The parents likely believed that the Disney Corp would make it safe csziggy Jun 2016 #116

If you invite people from all over the world, then it is your job to tell them jberryhill Jun 2016 #134

Assume at your own risk. avebury Jun 2016 #155

"There is almost no tragedy comparable to losing one's child." 3catwoman3 Jun 2016 #66

I would agree one hundred percent ... BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #129

There weren't such signs at this resort, with its man-made lagoons. pnwmom Jun 2016 #97

There are a multitude of signs warning guests not to go swimming in the Seven Seas Lagoon liberal N proud Jun 2016 #120

No one was swimming jberryhill Jun 2016 #133

OMG liberal N proud Jun 2016 #143

No reason to bring religion into this jberryhill Jun 2016 #146

That is enough to attract gators. liberal N proud Jun 2016 #157

Which is why a "No Swimming" sign is inadequate jberryhill Jun 2016 #165

The family was sitting on a beach/sandy area that is directly inside the resort... Princess Turandot Jun 2016 #8

:( Catherine Vincent Jun 2016 #90

Oh, God. Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #9

This was a vactioning familiy from Nebraska. They were with the kid, as he waded in the few jtuck004 Jun 2016 #10

Perfectly stated. Thank you. nt B2G Jun 2016 #22

At last count they had pulled and killed half a dozen gators, in their blood lust jtuck004 Jun 2016 #54

I don't think it's out of vengeance B2G Jun 2016 #55

In their stomachs? What a great excuse for ignorance. They should drain all the jtuck004 Jun 2016 #59

Yes, in the gator's stomach NickB79 Jun 2016 #153

Gators stash their prey underwater until they can swallow it. djean111 Jun 2016 #161

He's gone. I can't imagine asking people to kill every alligator in the area to find remains adigal Jun 2016 #70

You think the parents are directing the search and methods? nt B2G Jun 2016 #73

No, but as a parent who understands risks, I would ask them to suspend the search adigal Jun 2016 #76

Perhaps it's at Disney's request B2G Jun 2016 #82

Fortunately GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #79

So maybe they should kill every alligator in a 10 mile vicinity to find the remains adigal Jun 2016 #86

They should keep looking GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #91

"Receiving the remains" doesn't mean they're going to hand him to the parents... forgotmylogin Jun 2016 #158

They are trying to recover the body to give the family closure. pnwmom Jun 2016 #98

They are going to keep looking for the gator since it attacked a human. Ace Rothstein Jun 2016 #123

The thing that would stop it from happening again is not to build theme parks in alligator swamps. jtuck004 Jun 2016 #128

There are dangers everywhere you go. Ace Rothstein Jun 2016 #131

You mean immunie from people. They are the ones causing the problem. The 'gator jtuck004 Jun 2016 #135

I guess humans should all just die then. Ace Rothstein Jun 2016 #136

park has been there for 45 years and had countless millions of visitors Takket Jun 2016 #162

Well, at least I don't have to repeat myself. n/t jtuck004 Jun 2016 #164

Yes someone from Nebraska would likely have no idea such a thing was even possible. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #31

I live in NY state and I know about gators adigal Jun 2016 #67

So what? I'm from Washington and I would have known pnwmom Jun 2016 #99

Because it doesn't fit in with their "magical" and "carefree" image - yes, a sign with ALLIGAOTORS adigal Jun 2016 #132

I totally agree Catherine Vincent Jun 2016 #93

I thought of this happening when there in December woodsprite Jun 2016 #11

One office building I worked in had a large retention pond on the property...... Amaril Jun 2016 #172

After Disney, we rented a house in my inlaws development for a week woodsprite Jun 2016 #173

It wouldn't surprise me ... lpbk2713 Jun 2016 #12

As of this morning, they were reporting that they've destroyed 4 alligators. WillowTree Jun 2016 #20

Gators usually stash their prey underwater for a while. djean111 Jun 2016 #27

If you go to Florida's state parks, you'll clearly see actual Alligator warning signs near water. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2016 #29

I live here, and yes, I am always wary of gators, but I think those signs should have mentioned djean111 Jun 2016 #47

Disney should have had those signs prominently placed around all its lagoons. n/t pnwmom Jun 2016 #100

I was just relating this point to coworkers - Australia puts NO SWIMMING!! CROCODILES adigal Jun 2016 #74

I don't think they fucked up on the signs. forgotmylogin Jun 2016 #160

And as a Florida resident........ Amaril Jun 2016 #174

You need have no doubt. 3catwoman3 Jun 2016 #69

Another reason to stay the fuck away from Florida. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #14

No Swimming means No Swimming malaise Jun 2016 #16

A gator will quite enthusiastically come out of the water in order to catch its prey. djean111 Jun 2016 #28

I'm not from Florida but I come there often and I think gators all the time malaise Jun 2016 #33

Yes, but 'No swimming' isn't a sufficient warning ohnoyoudidnt Jun 2016 #40

I'm not wading in any fresh water in Florida malaise Jun 2016 #44

Even if you don't see gators or mocassins ... lpbk2713 Jun 2016 #46

I always think about gators when in Florida, because I have an active imagination adigal Jun 2016 #80

Yep malaise Jun 2016 #87

I wouldn't consider standing in a few inches of water to be "swimming" would you? PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #42

Hopefully people would understand that there are gators in all fresh water in FL gollygee Jun 2016 #19

Sensible. Raissa Jun 2016 #32

+1,000 malaise Jun 2016 #34

They need to post signs like this csziggy Jun 2016 #45

I agree. Many visitors from outside of the area wouldn't realize "no swimming" pnwmom Jun 2016 #101

I had no idea Amos Moses had so many kin that signed up for DU jberryhill Jun 2016 #147

I don't see anyone at fault, either MissDeeds Jun 2016 #149

So tragic! Terrible week for Orlando ecstatic Jun 2016 #21

A freakish and horrific occurance, but alligators are alligators. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2016 #23

And in a few months, more gators will be back davidn3600 Jun 2016 #35

with the amount of Yankee transplants in Florida, I'm surprised gator attacks are rare pstokely Jun 2016 #176

There have apparently been a few more deaths than that since 2007... PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #43

Private citizens nor companies GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #71

Yes, but Disney carries a lot of sway in this state. nt Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2016 #77

No doubt GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #83

that poor family irisblue Jun 2016 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author irisblue Jun 2016 #25

Oh great, here comes another swarm of winged blame monkeys. CBGLuthier Jun 2016 #36

Note to self: do not go to Florida this year. Initech Jun 2016 #38

The problem is that Disney's warning signs are not explicit enough. Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #48

That's a small sign, white on a light background. Bad placement and design. randome Jun 2016 #58

This is simply a sad, horrible accident. No more. nolabear Jun 2016 #49

So true, sometimes stuff just happens. Nt Logical Jun 2016 #61

I never took my kids to Disney because I thought it was all such make believe adigal Jun 2016 #51

Maybe they need to add a picture of an alligator to the "No swimming" signs they had posted. woodsprite Jun 2016 #84

And this was an organized function on that beach -- "Beach night." pnwmom Jun 2016 #117

MSM has commenced ALLIGATOR WEEK! JCMach1 Jun 2016 #56

Disney built their resort ... Whiskeytide Jun 2016 #60

Totally, totally agree with you. mainer Jun 2016 #62

Yeah. These folks who are saying that ... Whiskeytide Jun 2016 #65

Disney resorts are massive sprawling properties. Raissa Jun 2016 #126

There is a ton of undeveloped land on and surround the Disney World property. Ace Rothstein Jun 2016 #130

You can't relocate adult gators Sgent Jun 2016 #156

Steps away from a playground, mind you jberryhill Jun 2016 #64

Of course they can and should have signs warning about alligators. pnwmom Jun 2016 #111

Naww... warning signs about alligators would spoil the whole mood jberryhill Jun 2016 #121

I'm reading this as snark, right?? I don't think others did. NT adigal Jun 2016 #137

Yes jberryhill Jun 2016 #141

I agree 100% - while I think I would have known doesn't mean others would have adigal Jun 2016 #88

Absolutely... n/t Whiskeytide Jun 2016 #103

That is a sickening thought but you're probably right. pnwmom Jun 2016 #115

It's hard for us who have been there many times before JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #94

But holding his hand doesn't mean the child would have been safe pnwmom Jun 2016 #105

I don't disagree with the signs JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #108

From the reports I read, the beach there wasn't crowded. There were only a few people pnwmom Jun 2016 #118

I haven't heard that something like this has happened at the resort before... Whiskeytide Jun 2016 #109

It was their movie night on the beach JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #114

Best post here. +1000000000. Thank you! pnwmom Jun 2016 #104

Thanks PNW - always enjoy your posts too! n/t Whiskeytide Jun 2016 #112

I love the DU monday morning QBs experts. So annoying. Nt Logical Jun 2016 #63

This will cost Disney flamingdem Jun 2016 #92

Five gators have been caught and euthanized with no sign any of them responsible. mnhtnbb Jun 2016 #95

This was clearly Disney's fault. These were man-made lagoons on their property pnwmom Jun 2016 #102

We started going to Florida from NJ when I was a kid in the 50's. LONG before Disney. mnhtnbb Jun 2016 #110

Well, goody for you. But liability laws are meant to protect everyone, pnwmom Jun 2016 #113

And informing yourself of dangers is meant to avoid tragedy mnhtnbb Jun 2016 #122

Oh, yeah, these folks were just out for a payday jberryhill Jun 2016 #139

For the record, movie night was on the grass, not on the beach. Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2016 #142

That's probably the risk-benefit calculation they had their accountants make. pnwmom Jun 2016 #144

In Florida, there have been 23 gator related deaths since 1973 Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2016 #169

Most visitors in Florida know that getting struck by lightning pnwmom Jun 2016 #175

You can't prepare for lighning, given that it's been know to strike 10 miles + from a storm Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2016 #177

But lightning is a natural phenomenon that occurs everywhere in the country. pnwmom Jun 2016 #179

We will never agree Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2016 #180

I appreciate that you're not blaming the parents. pnwmom Jun 2016 #181

...and there are these signs that do little to no good Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2016 #178

Disney has very professional risk managers, who are well aware of the liability issues involved. Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2016 #140

That's right. They've decided the occasional human loss of life is worth it. pnwmom Jun 2016 #145

FWIW - I was at an RV camp near Orlando hedgehog Jun 2016 #96

I run almost every day, and no way do I get near the edge of the canal obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #154

A reason to go to Disneyland in California instead. mainer Jun 2016 #150

Update: Searchers recover body of boy snatched by gator at Disney PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #159

Alligators a frequent sight at Disney World PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #163

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