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linuxman

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16. Your sex makes literally no difference to me regarding a debate.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 12:44 PM
Jun 2016

My "contribution" is pointing out that most of the anti gunners on this site are more worried about virtue signaling and shaming people than actually bothering to listen, learn something, or have anything close to a dialogue.

There's a reason half the anti gun posts around here degenerate into a backslapping circle jerk, waxing on about boiling guns at a foundry, rather than actually proposing something realistic and effective.

As far as arguing minutiae about guns, I think I have a valid point. If I was trying to shame someone over not knowing the difference in chromoly steel barrels vs cold hammer forged chrome lined, you'd have a point. Asking people to understand the difference in semiautomatic and full auto, or to understand that 5.56 isn't a large caliber, manstomping, grizzly slaying round, rather than a smaller, weaker one than virtually every round fired at whitetail deer, or pointing out that a bolt action rifle isn't some sort of super assassin tool due to a pistol grip isn't being nitpicky. It's just asking for a basic level of intellectual curiosity and honesty.

Would you be able to take someone seriously if you were talking climate change, but they kept conflating seasonal temperature drops with the idea that it "proved" global warming wasn't happening? Of course not. You might try to explain the difference to them, but if they threw it back in your face as "weathersplaining", you might start to lose patience.

I get what you're saying, but I think most of the attempts to clarify information about guns here is done in good faith.

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K&R Mendocino Jun 2016 #1
Stick your fingers in your ears, linuxman Jun 2016 #2
LoL Crepuscular Jun 2016 #3
Yep. Brickbat Jun 2016 #6
painful amount of truth in your post Amishman Jun 2016 #7
I could get behind all of that linuxman Jun 2016 #8
thank you, that is the point i was trying to make Amishman Jun 2016 #10
There is hope - press conference today was for pushing Terror List ban and UBC. jmg257 Jun 2016 #12
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #101
That's it in a nutshell. linuxman Jun 2016 #18
People are not allowed to smoke in our restaurants. hunter Jun 2016 #42
If you're looking at the culture war angle, linuxman Jun 2016 #45
Well, I guess I'd just better call it quits then. hunter Jun 2016 #47
No. linuxman Jun 2016 #51
Your list is sarisataka Jun 2016 #15
as one of the pro gun crowd, I agree with your list Angel Martin Jun 2016 #53
Yep. We're mocking gone love. hunter Jun 2016 #9
And YOUR post is contributing to the quality of discussion exactly...how? lapislzi Jun 2016 #11
Your sex makes literally no difference to me regarding a debate. linuxman Jun 2016 #16
In good faith... lapislzi Jun 2016 #31
Really good post! SuperDutyTX Jun 2016 #39
Thank you, SuperDutyTX! lapislzi Jun 2016 #62
It does make a difference! scscholar Jun 2016 #33
If you had a point, I'm afraid I missed it. linuxman Jun 2016 #35
The point he's trying to make Matrosov Jun 2016 #17
Concern noted, and dismissed. Darb Jun 2016 #21
+100 G_j Jun 2016 #23
I'm not the majority Matrosov Jun 2016 #26
I could live with that. Darb Jun 2016 #27
What education do we need? treestar Jun 2016 #34
At least a basic understanding of firearms and firearm laws Matrosov Jun 2016 #46
I agree the manhood jokes are silly treestar Jun 2016 #57
Consider for an analogy, sarisataka Jun 2016 #49
IMO most of us gun grabbers treestar Jun 2016 #59
We know your whines by rote. Darb Jun 2016 #19
Thanks for making my point. linuxman Jun 2016 #20
In case they don't check: Your hands are bloody. Darb Jun 2016 #22
You're the gift that keeps on giving. linuxman Jun 2016 #24
And you have blood on your hands. Darb Jun 2016 #25
If you are a gun owner oneshooter Jun 2016 #28
Wrong. But I would give them up if that was the law. Darb Jun 2016 #29
LoL Crepuscular Jun 2016 #36
How hard are you going to try to be obtuse? Darb Jun 2016 #37
.... Crepuscular Jun 2016 #64
Again, completely obtuse. Nice hands. Darb Jun 2016 #73
More bullshit Crepuscular Jun 2016 #80
Sooner or later we will win. Darb Jun 2016 #81
... Crepuscular Jun 2016 #84
Too bad they are going to have to turn them in. Darb Jun 2016 #86
... Crepuscular Jun 2016 #87
" I would give them up if that was the law." oneshooter Jun 2016 #66
Stop being obtuse. Darb Jun 2016 #72
Your guns are in a closet! oneshooter Jun 2016 #76
Hey red hands, nice try. Darb Jun 2016 #77
So you have no excuse for leaving your guns oneshooter Jun 2016 #79
They are secured, Mr. Distracty. And they are not Darb Jun 2016 #83
No dog in this fight but bighart Jun 2016 #82
Please, don't fall for that, or you might be considered Darb Jun 2016 #85
Your own words my friend: bighart Jun 2016 #88
Only Republicans own semiautomatic handguns? Really? Just reading posts Jun 2016 #91
I don't hunt. linuxman Jun 2016 #30
I'll take the last word. Darb Jun 2016 #32
"deals with those who want violent revolution if it suits them" jmg257 Jun 2016 #44
Bank on it. Darb Jun 2016 #52
'blah Gun humper blah.blah'. Translation: Ive lost the argument and have nothing else useful to say. jack_krass Jun 2016 #89
I'll just say this. Adrahil Jun 2016 #68
I know plenty about these toys. Darb Jun 2016 #70
I'm not advocating ANYTHING except attacking this from a useful position Adrahil Jun 2016 #78
Really good post! SuperDutyTX Jun 2016 #38
You pretty much nailed my thoughts on the matter, linuxman Jun 2016 #40
Cool story bro. Darb Jun 2016 #71
No, it's NRLalalalala! Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #48
Hah, very good Dem2 Jun 2016 #4
Thanks. Got lots of those on Facebook. underpants Jun 2016 #5
And on DU. Orrex Jun 2016 #13
"Take em everywhere...the mall, the movies, the bouncy house at my nephew's b-day party" jmg257 Jun 2016 #14
A how-to guide for reasonable discourse on discussion forums. Bonx Jun 2016 #41
Because gun lovers are so reasonable... hunter Jun 2016 #43
Because banners are so-o-o-o openly liberal about free thought. Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #50
If I was always talking nerve gas, poisons, bombs, etc., defending that hobby on the internet... hunter Jun 2016 #56
"certain critical thinking skills" have been a mockery for controller/banners for years. Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #58
Go ahead, tell me more about gangs... hunter Jun 2016 #61
Why would you raise your kids in such an environment? Marengo Jun 2016 #75
Because my wife and I have spent the last quarter century trying to make the world a better place... hunter Jun 2016 #92
I don't believe keeping your kids in the dangerous environment you seem to boast... Marengo Jun 2016 #93
I grew up in an affluent Ivory Soap 99% pure white community... hunter Jun 2016 #95
Where there bullets wizzing about the neighborhood? My experience is not disimilar to yours... Marengo Jun 2016 #96
"Lumpen urban proles?" hunter Jun 2016 #98
A majority being white, clever boy, and nothing imaginary about the danger. I won't regale you... Marengo Jun 2016 #99
Oh please, I know you want to tell... so badly. hunter Jun 2016 #100
Back to the subject at hand, is your neighborhood as dangerous as you... Marengo Jun 2016 #103
About the same homicide rate as Venezuela. hunter Jun 2016 #104
Some are, some aren't. They aren't a monolith. Bonx Jun 2016 #54
As are the "fuck the NRA" people. krispos42 Jun 2016 #67
Tell me about the guns you love. hunter Jun 2016 #69
Was that gunsplaining or mansplaining? Darb Jun 2016 #55
All this splaining, I keep thinking of those damned splined Hotchkiss axles I had to deal... Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #60
You can call it what you want, but I don't see any value in either of those labels. Bonx Jun 2016 #63
Because you are obtuse. Darb Jun 2016 #74
Or because I am right. Bonx Jun 2016 #94
Licensed and trained to carry a firearm? JonathanRackham Jun 2016 #65
You still talk to gunner trash? alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #90
People driven by fear Dem2 Jun 2016 #97
Awwww you hurt some gun humpers fee fees, why are they so thin skinned? Rex Jun 2016 #102
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