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In reply to the discussion: Your guide to semi-automatic rifles [View all]NickB79
(20,370 posts)108. Great post. One problem: how do we get back the billions of high-capacity magazines?
If a law were passed outlawing them and requiring their surrender, we have to pay their owners fair compensation.
Several billion magazines (not an unlikely number) at $10-$50/magazine, along with the man-hours needed to collect and dispose of the magazines, starts to add up quickly. And even then, given how small and easily hidden they are, you will likely never collect more than a fraction of them in our lifetimes.
And then we haven't even started on the threat of 3D printers and easily made polymer magazines: http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/01/14/gunsmiths-3d-print-high-capacity-ammo-clips-to-thwart-proposed-gun-laws/#5210b7203fed
Over the past weekend, Defense Distributed successfully 3D-printed and tested an ammunition magazine for an AR semi-automatic rifle, loading and firing 86 rounds from the 30-round clip.
That homemade chunk of curved plastic holds special significance: Between 1994 and 2004, so-called high capacity magazines capable of holding more than 10 bullets were banned from sale. And a new gun control bill proposed by California Senator Diane Feinstein would ban those larger ammo clips again. President Obama has also voiced support for the magazine restrictions.
But Defense Distributed founder Cody Wilson says he hopes the groups recent work demonstrates the futility of that proposed ban in the age of cheap 3D printing.
We want to preempt Feinstein, to eat their lunch, says Wilson. This isnt 1994. The Internet happened since the last assault weapons ban. This is a fledgling tech, but look what were able to do. We printed that magazine out.
That homemade chunk of curved plastic holds special significance: Between 1994 and 2004, so-called high capacity magazines capable of holding more than 10 bullets were banned from sale. And a new gun control bill proposed by California Senator Diane Feinstein would ban those larger ammo clips again. President Obama has also voiced support for the magazine restrictions.
But Defense Distributed founder Cody Wilson says he hopes the groups recent work demonstrates the futility of that proposed ban in the age of cheap 3D printing.
We want to preempt Feinstein, to eat their lunch, says Wilson. This isnt 1994. The Internet happened since the last assault weapons ban. This is a fledgling tech, but look what were able to do. We printed that magazine out.
Anyone have any suggestions?
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the gun crowd has spent over a decade stocking up, we are flooded with high capacity clips
Amishman
Jun 2016
#94
Every friggin one of those, and semi-auto pistols, should be banned no matter how gunners squeal.
Hoyt
Jun 2016
#2
Thank you. Concise information such as this will help elevate the debate . . .
Journeyman
Jun 2016
#3
"I feel that progressives will have more power to face the NRA and its supporters if those
Brickbat
Jun 2016
#8
Republicans have blocked pro-environment legislation for years while knowing nothing about it
Orrex
Jun 2016
#11
Our laws rely on precision of language. And you're right: When precision becomes overly specific,
Brickbat
Jun 2016
#12
It doesn't. Every single gun up there would remain legal. Some would need a slightly different grip
Recursion
Jun 2016
#32
OK, so you join me in opposing the Assault Weapons Ban since it keeps these guns legal?
Recursion
Jun 2016
#26
The second amendment is an ugly constitutional anachronism, just like slavery was.
hunter
Jun 2016
#81
The gun love sifter rejects the stories where things turn out worse for the "defender."
hunter
Jun 2016
#121
I've been in rough situations, more than the average gun owner, sometimes against armed people.
hunter
Jun 2016
#129
He can speak for himself, but as I remember he would like a complete ban on the civilian...
Marengo
Jun 2016
#91
Which means we need to give up on the whole "military style" nonsense completely
Recursion
Jun 2016
#41
So then we need to stop futzing about with what the kind of gun that can do that *looks like*
Recursion
Jun 2016
#42
Precisely. There are too many people in this country that know that we're behaving
pablo_marmol
Jun 2016
#99
The problem is gun grabbers will run about spouting incorrect BS and look like idiots
The Straight Story
Jun 2016
#52
And there's so little excuse now with the greatest research tool in the history of the world...
PoliticAverse
Jun 2016
#103
I assume that anyone who says 'Piss on it" to knowledge is ignorant, or intends to keep others so.
X_Digger
Jun 2016
#138
I put quotes around it because you said it. "We don't need to know the detail" *shrug* n/t
X_Digger
Jun 2016
#144
And yet the AWB you mock would have stopped the sale of the assault rifle the Pulse shooter used.
SunSeeker
Jun 2016
#55
It is perfectly acceptable in polite company to admit you were wrong, you know. nt
hack89
Jun 2016
#128
But uses an internal magazine loaded with a 8 shot clip. It dates from 1936.
oneshooter
Jun 2016
#143
The Bushmaster M17 was a popular, very short gun sold legally during the 1994 AWB
NickB79
Jun 2016
#106
It should not have been legal. And you could have made your point without the gun porn.
SunSeeker
Jun 2016
#109
I posted it to show how short it was. A picture is worth a thousand words, as they say
NickB79
Jun 2016
#110
They did experience a drastic reduction in suicides after their guns bans though...
Lancero
Jun 2016
#64
It didn't "greatly reduce suicides"....it may have reduced suicides by the banned guns...
pipoman
Jun 2016
#86
Valiant effort but there is an active and conscious resistance to education about firearms..
TipTok
Jun 2016
#75
More apologists for so-called "assault rifles." "They are fun to shoot . . . . . .and intimidate."
Hoyt
Jun 2016
#96
I appreciate the thread. Educating folks on guns is a tough, tough chore on DU. nt
Eleanors38
Jun 2016
#102
Well -since that brilliant ban also has a grandfather clause - hold onto it - it'll be $$$.
jmg257
Jun 2016
#117
Not seeing why it would be. Great shotgun. Just don't add a mag extension (vs the bill linked above)
jmg257
Jun 2016
#146
Great post. One problem: how do we get back the billions of high-capacity magazines?
NickB79
Jun 2016
#108