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phazed0

(745 posts)
33. We're losing our heads...
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 03:50 PM
Jun 2016

Sorry, but this is silliness. I get people wanting to "do something" about guns, but this is getting to be madness.

Gun Violence is not a disease in the true sense of the word. Just like Terrorism doesn't classify all violent actions.

Gun violence is a Social issue that results in a possible health issue. See, we're not treating the right thing here.

And no, they are not going to have "An epidemiological analysis of gun violence" seeing as the meaning of epidemiological is:

The term epidemiology is now widely applied to cover the description and causation of not only epidemic disease, but of disease in general, and even many non-disease, health-related conditions, such as high blood pressure and obesity. Therefore, this epidemiology is based upon how the pattern of the disease cause changes in the function of everyone.


and further

Epidemiologists employ a range of study designs from the observational to experimental and generally categorized as descriptive, analytic (aiming to further examine known associations or hypothesized relationships), and experimental (a term often equated with clinical or community trials of treatments and other interventions). In observational studies, nature is allowed to “take its course”, as epidemiologists observe from the sidelines. Conversely, in experimental studies, the epidemiologist is the one in control of all of the factors entering a certain case study.[33] Epidemiological studies are aimed, where possible, at revealing unbiased relationships between exposures such as alcohol or smoking, biological agents, stress, or chemicals to mortality or morbidity. The identification of causal relationships between these exposures and outcomes is an important aspect of epidemiology. Modern epidemiologists use informatics as a tool.

Observational studies have two components, descriptive and analytical. Descriptive observations pertain to the “who, what, where and when of health-related state occurrence”. However, analytical observations deal more with the ‘how’ of a health-related event.[33] Experimental epidemiology contains three case types: randomized controlled trials (often used for new medicine or drug testing), field trials (conducted on those at a high risk of conducting a disease), and community trials (research on social originating diseases).[33]

The term 'epidemiologic triad' is used to describe the intersection of Host, Agent, and Environment in analyzing an outbreak.


Next thing you know we're going to have the AMA after automobile crashes and construction site injuries.

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Too bad they don't sign a resolution to make medical services pipoman Jun 2016 #1
boom. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #2
and to triple the number of medical students ErikJ Jun 2016 #11
They AMA has become a tool of the Pharmaceutical Industry, bought and paid for. hunter Jun 2016 #25
Wow. I've suspected as much but you've said it clearly lostnfound Jun 2016 #30
Family and friends... Doctors, nurses, teachers hunter Jun 2016 #49
That's the inevitable end Roy Rolling Jun 2016 #58
Health care economics Dhantesvz Jun 2016 #43
Physicians accepted to medical school in the U.S. have completed four years of college... hunter Jun 2016 #47
Thank you OwlinAZ Jun 2016 #50
Well why should poor countries subsidize education for medical students malaise Jun 2016 #48
Wrong and right Chuuku Davis Jun 2016 #63
A reference to Dante Alighieri? saidsimplesimon Jun 2016 #68
hunter, bingo, thank you, n/t saidsimplesimon Jun 2016 #67
Trust me, the high admission standards are good. Some of the people at the bottom of my med school eastwestdem Jun 2016 #53
Yes… exactly... midnight Jun 2016 #12
Ouch that had to hurt Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #26
I was just about to say something similar My Good Babushka Jun 2016 #27
Might I suggest doctors focus sarisataka Jun 2016 #3
Well, since most of what they do helps people, AllyCat Jun 2016 #14
+50 (eom) klook Jun 2016 #16
People who have used firearms sarisataka Jun 2016 #17
Yes. 30k people dying from guns, even (gasp!) self-inflicted, is a public health concern AllyCat Jun 2016 #18
I don't oppose public health research sarisataka Jun 2016 #19
not surprised you were impressed with that survey of existing research. maxsolomon Jun 2016 #57
Many people were sarisataka Jun 2016 #60
The last one, yep, the last one. Matt_R Jun 2016 #71
Do you think they can possibly focus on more than one thing? Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #21
Doctors are intelligent people, sarisataka Jun 2016 #22
I'll take it. I hope they let us know when Ilsa Jun 2016 #4
To quote Joe Biden: "This is a big fucking deal!" Stinky The Clown Jun 2016 #5
To people criticizing the AMA in the face of this news, please stop. Stinky The Clown Jun 2016 #6
+1. Well said. (N/T) Old Crow Jun 2016 #8
They're doing the right thing in this case IronLionZion Jun 2016 #15
I personally know over 300 local docs Chuuku Davis Jun 2016 #64
Thank you. dmr Jun 2016 #28
+1 Politicub Jun 2016 #39
Yeah, I hate that. Beartracks Jun 2016 #44
Well, I'll 'criticize' them...It's about fucking time.... Wounded Bear Jun 2016 #45
Thank you! nevergiveup Jun 2016 #62
K & R SunSeeker Jun 2016 #7
My husband, a MD, says "FINALLY"! Duval Jun 2016 #9
GREAT! K&R 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #10
Good to see this surgon has on all his props... midnight Jun 2016 #13
What a shitty thing to say stopwastingmymoney Jun 2016 #24
I disagree… The surgeons in this country do exactly what they are told to do by the insurance co. midnight Jun 2016 #29
blood soaked scrubs might have sent a stronger message lostnfound Jun 2016 #31
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #34
Nice to see them doing something positive for a change. n/t Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #20
Works for me postatomic Jun 2016 #23
The NRA and Republicans passed legislation years ago preventing any research on guy injuries. They rladdi Jun 2016 #32
We're losing our heads... phazed0 Jun 2016 #33
Yes, getting shot dead could be considered a health issue. nt babylonsister Jun 2016 #37
Get over yourself greiner3 Jun 2016 #38
Flushhhhhh Politicub Jun 2016 #40
No, not really... phazed0 Jun 2016 #41
I suggest you start lobbying the AMA to stop this foolish crusade. NBachers Jun 2016 #54
GOOD! libodem Jun 2016 #35
WOW! avaistheone1 Jun 2016 #36
No one stopped the AMA from doing their own study, except themselves. Ikonoklast Jun 2016 #42
Yet they didn't use their power to fight for a Public Option leftstreet Jun 2016 #46
KICK Hekate Jun 2016 #51
It's about time. glennward Jun 2016 #52
Good for them! lark Jun 2016 #55
According to OpenSecrets.org... 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #56
The Republicans at least 20 years ago on advice of their counsel, NRA. passed a bill banning rladdi Jun 2016 #59
If Congress bans funding for studying gun violence does anyone think they'll do anything to stop it? EndElectoral Jun 2016 #61
kick ailsagirl Jun 2016 #65
babylonsister, thank you, recommended saidsimplesimon Jun 2016 #66
K&R red dog 1 Jun 2016 #69
Good news! flamingdem Jun 2016 #70
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