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tenderfoot

(8,982 posts)
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 06:29 PM Jun 2016

Oh dear. CIA has not found any link between Orlando killer and Isis, says agency chief [View all]

So sorry to rain on the Islamophobe parade. Maybe it'll wash away all the egg they accused the left of having stuck all over their faces...

John Brennan told the Senate intelligence committee Thursday that CIA has no evidence of a connection between Omar Mateen and the Islamic State.

The Central Intelligence Agency chief has not been “able to uncover any link” between Orlando killer Omar Mateen and the Islamic State, despite Mateen’s stated allegiance to the jihadist group during Sunday’s LGBT nightclub massacre.


Reinforcing four days of internal government assessments across multiple agencies and a Federal Bureau of Investigation inquiry, the CIA director, John Brennan, contrasted “lone wolf” killers in Orlando and San Bernardino last December with recent terrorist attacks in Paris and Brussels, which he told the Senate intelligence committee were “directed” by Isis leadership in Syria and Iraq.

Brennan described a spread-bet strategy by Isis as it loses territory in Iraq and Syria. The group’s “terrorist capacity or global reach” remain undiminished by US-led advances on Isis-held cities like Manbij and Fallujah, the latest developments in a war nearing its third year, and Brennan said the US should expect Isis to launch accelerating terrorist attacks worldwide, a reversion to its pre-2014 status quo.

“As the pressure mounts on Isil, we judge that it will intensify its global terror campaign to maintain its dominance of the global terrorism agenda,” Brennan said, using the administration’s preferred acronym for Isis.

But Brennan indicated that the shape of those attacks will vary. Isis is consolidating and “interconnecting” its foreign branches, he said, particularly its “most dangerous” branch in Libya, and also placing operatives in western countries, chiefly in Europe. It will also “inspire attacks by sympathizers with no ties to the group”, which Brennan said taxes security agencies’ ability to notice ahead of an attack.

More: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/16/cia-orlando-shooter-omar-mateen-isis-pulse-nightclub-attack?CMP=share_btn_fb

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Though, I'm sure there are plenty of links between the CIA and ISIS tenderfoot Jun 2016 #1
but, but, but -- killings like this mean expanding the 2nd Amendment, while demolishing the 4th! villager Jun 2016 #2
He didn't want his Father to Know he was Gay Night Watchman Jun 2016 #3
"Hey, if I were gay, I wouldn't want MY dad to know about it, either!" melman Jun 2016 #4
You Haven't Met My Dad! Night Watchman Jun 2016 #7
"if I were gay, I wouldn't want MY dad to know about it, either!" tenderfoot Jun 2016 #6
what an insensitive thing to say. Remarkable, really. cali Jun 2016 #21
But you're fine with the homophobic dad... tenderfoot Jun 2016 #26
And for second place, this post n/t arcane1 Jun 2016 #35
I wish I had a parent that heartless. tenderfoot Jun 2016 #38
I don't think they are fine with the homophobia Arneoker Jun 2016 #66
And they're too "sensitive" to reply in the thread too. Just got a private message: arcane1 Jun 2016 #37
Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT. Autumn Jun 2016 #40
Winner of "most ignorant post of the day" arcane1 Jun 2016 #33
Except he wasn't Gay King_David Jun 2016 #43
I'd like to see the note he left for his father. GeorgeGist Jun 2016 #55
He swore allegiance to ISIS and they claimed him Ex Lurker Jun 2016 #5
So you dispute what the director of the CIA says? tenderfoot Jun 2016 #8
I dispute your interpretation of it nt Ex Lurker Jun 2016 #9
same here. Throd Jun 2016 #10
Me too King_David Jun 2016 #44
A story with implications like this can get played either way unfortunately newthinking Jun 2016 #47
CIA director is always right.... 840high Jun 2016 #12
only when it fits your worldview. tenderfoot Jun 2016 #20
Unbelievable King_David Jun 2016 #45
+1 840high Jun 2016 #11
Considering what information has come out about his behavior, ohnoyoudidnt Jun 2016 #15
In my view, it's not either/or. They were both factors nt Ex Lurker Jun 2016 #16
.+1 840high Jun 2016 #30
His sexuality and his fundamentalist upbringing are definitely factors. ohnoyoudidnt Jun 2016 #50
His father supported the Taliban, and posted about it on-line. passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #51
There's a big difference between using something for justification and actually coordinating. nt Gore1FL Jun 2016 #24
ISIS propaganda encourages radicals in the west to act on their own Ex Lurker Jun 2016 #29
I suspect the shooter in FL was going to commit the act either way. Gore1FL Jun 2016 #42
I'm sure ISIL was thrilled to claim him after the fact. Ilsa Jun 2016 #31
That's wht they tell people Warpy Jun 2016 #39
Yep King_David Jun 2016 #46
I agree Cresent City Kid Jun 2016 #54
Who hacked the killer's face book page malaise Jun 2016 #13
No they didn't melman Jun 2016 #14
Then the report on GEM$NBComcast is wrong malaise Jun 2016 #18
The FBI found 5 facebook 840high Jun 2016 #32
"In each one he pledged to Islam." Holy Freudian slip, Batman. LeftyMom Jun 2016 #41
Well buck up Director Brennan............. socialist_n_TN Jun 2016 #17
Haters are still going to hate though IronLionZion Jun 2016 #19
There are reasons to hate ISIS not related to this case. ohnoyoudidnt Jun 2016 #52
You do realize what he's referring to when it comes to a "link", right? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #22
ZERO link to groups outside the US tenderfoot Jun 2016 #28
You're really not making sense melman Jun 2016 #34
Glad you agree with what I said. ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #60
For those, here and elsewhere, who think hate is the solution, not the problem, that won't make jtuck004 Jun 2016 #23
I think he used the ISIS references to divert attention away from the fact that he was gay world wide wally Jun 2016 #25
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #27
You have proof he was Gay? King_David Jun 2016 #48
Purely circumstantial but he was seen at that club a dozen times and was registered to a gay dating world wide wally Jun 2016 #53
Not really, King_David Jun 2016 #58
I would think that "casing the joint" once or twice would suffice for his intentions, but who knows? world wide wally Jun 2016 #59
Lots unknown here ,The dude seemed totally fucked up King_David Jun 2016 #61
I'm Not Positing A Theory ProfessorGAC Jun 2016 #64
Hold up The2ndWheel Jun 2016 #36
see #12 840high Jun 2016 #49
If you are implying this means that Mateen's motives were not religious, IMO you are wrong. Yo_Mama Jun 2016 #56
Shooter claimed allegiance to two competing groups at the last minute. He was just shitting us. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2016 #57
K&R.... spanone Jun 2016 #62
It's truly bizarre to call it Islamophobia when a terrorist is linked to a terror group melman Jun 2016 #63
Oh, thank god ISIS isn't directly involved. pintobean Jun 2016 #65
I said that already. He was a bi-polar, suppressed homosexual who was probably underahedgerow Jun 2016 #67
That means they didn't directly talk. ISIS sends one-way recruiting messaging all over Lee-Lee Jun 2016 #68
Ah, so the truth comes out... Wednesdays Jun 2016 #69
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