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dinopipie

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21. Did I say I was no longer going to support them?

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 08:37 AM

Jun 2012

No I did not.

You know I could easily not give a shit, why because I am in the 7% meaning 93% of America makes less then me. I have HC and Money saved for retirement, I could retire without SS if I had to. I don't have to worry about were my next meal is coming from or going to the doctor. All my basic needs are met. My livelihood does not depend on Union Wages at all.

From a purely fiscal POV it does not matter who, D or R, runs the show, I do OK either way.

Bottom line is Union Members voting against their own self interest, it is a problem a big problem.

If you want to get hung up on numbers and ensuring the correct % is posted on a political discussion board that few read or know about that is your right but it does not accomplish much of anything.

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If the Union Members are going to not support themselves then why should I continue to support them? [View all] dinopipie Jun 2012 OP

What's your source for pintobean Jun 2012 #1

That number was widely reported in the news from multiple sources dinopipie Jun 2012 #8

In other words pintobean Jun 2012 #11

Did I say I was no longer going to support them? dinopipie Jun 2012 #21

Did you catch the "if"? pintobean Jun 2012 #27

If it is slander as you calim then sue me dinopipie Jun 2012 #32

Aren't you special. pintobean Jun 2012 #33

You are just being rude. I saw that reported on the news also, just as the OP said. Autumn Jun 2012 #101

Keep reading. pintobean Jun 2012 #102

Bless the hearts of the fucking news and their shitty reporting. Autumn Jun 2012 #103

Oh, I believe you heard it correctly. pintobean Jun 2012 #105

The only thing it says is that the OP asked a question on what they heard reported. Autumn Jun 2012 #106

If you're ok with false information pintobean Jun 2012 #107

It's not false information. The OP created a post asking a question based on what was reported Autumn Jun 2012 #111

Fuck it. pintobean Jun 2012 #112

Fuck it yourself. Autumn Jun 2012 #114

classy pintobean Jun 2012 #118

Pretty classy there yourself Autumn Jun 2012 #120

Yeah, you too. pintobean Jun 2012 #121

Don't need to compare notes with anyone. Autumn Jun 2012 #122

Sarcastic answers won't support your point demwing Jun 2012 #70

You just did pintobean Jun 2012 #73

Ah I see demwing Jun 2012 #95

Ah I see pintobean Jun 2012 #97

No I just think demwing Jun 2012 #126

Oh, I know what the OP means pintobean Jun 2012 #128

Sorry my bad demwing Jun 2012 #131

wow. we are all impressed...well, 32.573% of us anyway. ret5hd Jun 2012 #28

Isn't he though? UnrepentantLiberal Jun 2012 #67

I agree with you..n/t monmouth Jun 2012 #17

Hi! Husband works for KCPL Ship of Fools Jun 2012 #63

The source of the confusion may be this: Union Members at 27%..Union households at 35%..n/t whathehell Jun 2012 #18

Confusion, or propaganda. pintobean Jun 2012 #23

Seems like you are missing the point of the OP dinopipie Jun 2012 #30

I think I nailed the point pintobean Jun 2012 #40

Your original post hits the nail right on the head. All these folks obsessing about the exact # or pangaia Jun 2012 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author pintobean Jun 2012 #35

If you think so dinopipie Jun 2012 #36

Well, thanks for your concern. pintobean Jun 2012 #41

If you don't want me to buy union made goods and services just say so dinopipie Jun 2012 #49

Go back to post #11 and do the math. pintobean Jun 2012 #59

Damn! Take a Breath. 12AngryBorneoWildmen Jun 2012 #81

I'm breathing just fine pintobean Jun 2012 #83

I agree, you ARE breathing just fine demwing Jun 2012 #135

It's livelihood Alcibiades Jun 2012 #65

That's what I heard on the Ed Show. whathehell Jun 2012 #134

27% of any US population seems to be nuts. K8-EEE Jun 2012 #117

I can well understand. cyclezealot Jun 2012 #34

Maybe Fox News is targeted toward them? Turbineguy Jun 2012 #2

I'm interested in the answers to your question. Laurian Jun 2012 #3

You should support them because it's the right thing to do. (nt) Skinner Jun 2012 #4

+1,000,000,000 x 1,000,000,000 - Well put and definitely coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #143

That sums it up Harmony Blue Jun 2012 #152

Plus eleventy billion! n/t Violet_Crumble Jun 2012 #154

Those were probably members forced to join and not voluntary members. nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #5

Nice Republican talking point UnrepentantLiberal Jun 2012 #69

I'm not convinced that report is accurate... Sancho Jun 2012 #6

Bradblog.com has been recording proprietary voting machine anomalies for years now. valerief Jun 2012 #58

They have long needed to clean house. nt LaydeeBug Jun 2012 #7

I remember Back in the day seeing 2 of my Union Uncles dinopipie Jun 2012 #10

In this day and age, I have a guy I grew up with who is now in Ohio working for GM, praising repigs LaydeeBug Jun 2012 #13

Back when I was in the military dinopipie Jun 2012 #16

There's something like that here at DU. UnrepentantLiberal Jun 2012 #77

Your 'Union Uncles' by training scabs, became scabs themselves... Bluenorthwest Jun 2012 #43

Maybe I misunderstood the post SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2012 #45

You are correct dinopipie Jun 2012 #51

Ah, but you missed the lesson? Bluenorthwest Jun 2012 #54

+1 pintobean Jun 2012 #62

WOW! You completely misunderstood the post (as did I) and yet 12AngryBorneoWildmen Jun 2012 #88

Divide and conquer Enrique Jun 2012 #9

Are you really sure that you want to accept that 35% of Union members voted for Walker? HereSince1628 Jun 2012 #12

Other Factors In Play As Well DallasNE Jun 2012 #29

Yes, well, there was a headline: Milwaukee archbishop backs unions HereSince1628 Jun 2012 #66

Archbishop Backs Principle Of Unions But DallasNE Jun 2012 #108

You understand that Unions are just like any other group of humans Sherman A1 Jun 2012 #14

Thank you for your concern. aquart Jun 2012 #15

So you think the very day of the elections everyone knows what union members lunatica Jun 2012 #19

Apparently you aren't a union member yourself - hedgehog Jun 2012 #20

Because there is no union for what I do dinopipie Jun 2012 #24

What do you do? UnrepentantLiberal Jun 2012 #89

What do I do? dinopipie Jun 2012 #113

Oh, I get it pintobean Jun 2012 #115

FWIW, your smug attitude and sense of entitlement is really creepy - n/t coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #144

My reaction exactly. nt Blecht Jun 2012 #145

Union leadership a long time ago made the mistake mmonk Jun 2012 #22

Yes! Punish them all because of a few in WI! Brilliant! JNelson6563 Jun 2012 #25

35% is not just a few. Let's be honest here. n/t vaberella Jun 2012 #31

In One State...out of those who voted. JNelson6563 Jun 2012 #37

I thought his post was wholly dependent on WI and not the ENTIRE labor force. n/t vaberella Jun 2012 #53

It seems to me JNelson6563 Jun 2012 #80

Oh understood. You're right. vaberella Jun 2012 #104

I can't believe that exit poll. It's like believing the exit poll where the race is too close to shcrane71 Jun 2012 #26

You can't believe the exit polls? If elections are often rigged, HomerRamone Jun 2012 #56

Hard to tell what to believe isn't it. Seems something could be done to instill shcrane71 Jun 2012 #68

Assuming you mean the Walker recall, Scotty exempted some Unions from attack... Bluenorthwest Jun 2012 #38

Class. TBF Jun 2012 #39

Speaking as the child of a labor organizer in the nineteen forties... whathehell Jun 2012 #155

Agree - I knew it as the daughter of a union worker in the 70s TBF Jun 2012 #157

"Almost everything I buy is Union made" justgamma Jun 2012 #42

Google is your friend dinopipie Jun 2012 #46

And yet you apparently could not google up information on exempt Unions in Wisconsin Bluenorthwest Jun 2012 #52

Pick a little. Talk a little. Pick a little. Talk a little. 12AngryBorneoWildmen Jun 2012 #91

Unions Are Not A Monolith...Solidarity Has Been A Problem For A Long Time KharmaTrain Jun 2012 #44

Well put SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2012 #47

Finger Pointing...A DU Tradition... KharmaTrain Jun 2012 #64

Back when I was living in Europe dinopipie Jun 2012 #48

I see it at work tomkoop Jun 2012 #50

A union is strong as the membership. Maybe B Calm Jun 2012 #79

Can't join tomkoop Jun 2012 #85

The fact that individuals are afraid of their bosses is why collective action is needed Bluenorthwest Jun 2012 #99

YES tomkoop Jun 2012 #123

Why even ask this question? drm604 Jun 2012 #55

Fear rucky Jun 2012 #57

Spot on n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2012 #60

Whether a member of a Union or not most workers receive residual benefit by the Snotcicles Jun 2012 #61

Because of labor the recall happened, however, I do know this, because of labor Reagan won, and still_one Jun 2012 #71

Faux News. Faygo Kid Jun 2012 #72

Bingo. Millions are voting against their best interests. And that includes union members. RufusTFirefly Jun 2012 #76

Your logic is flawed, but welcome to DU. rhett o rick Jun 2012 #74

Then don't support unions. Robb Jun 2012 #75

Well, I've read pintobean Jun 2012 #78

Thanks. It just sort of came out. Robb Jun 2012 #139

Bravo! This needed to be said! His support, shall we say, is coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #146

This is concern troll at its best.... trumad Jun 2012 #84

In states without Right to Work... Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2012 #86

As a current union member, I ask you to support worker rights! AllyCat Jun 2012 #87

Not every union member supports unions, and even supporters may have other priorities thesquanderer Jun 2012 #90

yep, the baby with the bathwater routine stupidicus Jun 2012 #92

I think you are missing the point. Tom Rinaldo Jun 2012 #93

So you are only going to support causes and rights that get 100% of their internal vote? TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #94

The GLBT vote is around 75% and more Democratic. Bluenorthwest Jun 2012 #96

Okay, so 25% defection is our line for support? Is 27% of union members (rather than 35% of TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #109

The OP is disingenuous. Son of Gob Jun 2012 #100

Oh, no, I truly believe he's a 7%er who "works in the shadows"... WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2012 #124

. . . Son of Gob Jun 2012 #141

Hah-hah. I was picking up exactly the same sort of coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #147

typical of many posts here demwing Jun 2012 #130

I see a reasoned response brentspeak Jun 2012 #137

Union Members do support themselves. And you should support unions b/c it's the right thing to do. fishwax Jun 2012 #98

You have every right to express frustration at union workers that vote for Walker. pennylane100 Jun 2012 #110

What I find very interesting is the European Manufactures in the USA dinopipie Jun 2012 #116

You have to wonder why they moved those jobs here. Zalatix Jun 2012 #125

That would certainly seem like wasted opportunities. pennylane100 Jun 2012 #140

precisely, nt demwing Jun 2012 #127

Seriously in need of a history book or two nadinbrzezinski Jun 2012 #119

Just curious...where did the OP call for 100% solidity? demwing Jun 2012 #129

Post #8 nt pintobean Jun 2012 #132

Yeah, a demand for 100% would be pretty unrealistic demwing Jun 2012 #133

The OP has been asked to clarify what they literally mean. TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #138

Can't speak forthe OP demwing Jun 2012 #148

I answered your question pintobean Jun 2012 #149

Lol, you're a riot. If you don't know what the OP is thinking demwing Jun 2012 #150

I was referring to your comments about pintobean Jun 2012 #151

Sure. demwing Jun 2012 #153

Here Is Why EVERYBODY Should Support The Unions... WillyT Jun 2012 #136

I can think of reasons FreeJoe Jun 2012 #142

I agree. Zoeisright Jun 2012 #156

You shouldn't. You know you don't want to. Iggo Jun 2012 #158