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Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
18. Apples and oranges.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 10:50 AM
Jun 2016

Basically, you're saying anyone who owns an "assault gun" or a "hi-cap clip" as a hobbyist is an asshole, but only drunk drivers are assholes. The make your analogy equal, you'd need to call all drinkers assholes. After all, drinking alcohol isn;t necessary. We do it for pleasure, and most people (including myself) do so responsibly.

Another interesting statistic: in 2010, a survey showed than over 28 million people have admitted to drunk driving.

Anyway, I don't want to push this any further. But I do think there is some selective outrage happening here. Gun owners don't want all gun owners blamed, and drinkers don't want all drinkers blamed. More people drink than own guns, so one doesn;t get mentioned so much. People are willing to tolerate a lot of deaths so long as their ox doesn't get gored.

I'm probably more sensitive to this than most. I had two close family members killed by drunk driver, and no one I know (yet) has been killed with a gun.

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and now for something completely different DustyJoe Jun 2016 #1
proceed governor... jpak Jun 2016 #2
Yes, please proceed Dem2 Jun 2016 #4
Of course, guns play no role whatsoever in this world wide wally Jun 2016 #5
Please enlighten us regarding "politically correct" jpak Jun 2016 #6
a favorite term used by ALL politicians and forums like this n/t DustyJoe Jun 2016 #10
No - it's used by conservative fuckwads like Trump to legitimize hate thought & speech jpak Jun 2016 #13
"completely preventable" - how? jberryhill Jun 2016 #7
easy DustyJoe Jun 2016 #9
Take that one up with the gun humpers here Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #14
Do you support that? Indydem Jun 2016 #21
You can do this with due process jpak Jun 2016 #22
So which part of this was proposed previously? Indydem Jun 2016 #25
You could use a gun and ammo taxes to fund on-line courts to adjudicate these proceedings jpak Jun 2016 #28
I was thinking a panel of 5 judges. Indydem Jun 2016 #33
I agree with that - due process must be part of the solution. jpak Jun 2016 #36
Glad you and I could agree. Indydem Jun 2016 #41
Unfortunately, as my grandmother used to say... jpak Jun 2016 #45
Note that the Orlando shooter was not on the terror watch list. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #34
Thank you for the illustration. Do you consider yourself to be "politically correct". Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #47
He was flagged as 'do not approve'? jpak Jun 2016 #15
should have been flagged DustyJoe Jun 2016 #51
OK jpak Jun 2016 #53
It's the NRA and Cogress that enabled this, not the president., lark Jun 2016 #23
All people have Constitutional Rights Indydem Jun 2016 #27
Being a suspected terrorist isn't that arbitrary. lark Jun 2016 #29
And what if the person writing the list isn't your ally? Indydem Jun 2016 #32
Exactly - or a spiteful POS like a President Trump jpak Jun 2016 #40
1 - that wouldn't happen in reality. lark Jun 2016 #42
YOU WOULDN'T KNOW Indydem Jun 2016 #43
Some of it is BS, true lark Jun 2016 #63
Fear is an interesting motivator... sarisataka Jun 2016 #52
IT ALREADY DID.. X_Digger Jun 2016 #55
Sigh lark Jun 2016 #62
... Crepuscular Jun 2016 #46
Could you explain exactly how that works? Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #11
Found the Republican SwankyXomb Jun 2016 #26
You are talking out of your ass. How was it preventable, for an American citizen jtuck004 Jun 2016 #31
btw - "politically correct" is a term ass clown conservatives substitute for the word respect. jtuck004 Jun 2016 #39
What does a club shooting have to do with workplace violence? scscholar Jun 2016 #44
I agree Dem2 Jun 2016 #3
IN 2014, nearly 9,000 people died in drunk-driving accidents in the USA. Adrahil Jun 2016 #8
Deflection - but yes, drunk drivers and assault gun/hi-cap clip "hobbyists" jpak Jun 2016 #12
No kidding huh? Dem2 Jun 2016 #16
My eyes!!!111 jpak Jun 2016 #17
LMAO Dem2 Jun 2016 #19
Apples and oranges. Adrahil Jun 2016 #18
You're right it's apples and oranges MillennialDem Jun 2016 #59
no shit. i have a semi rational epal. but gun enthusiast. BUT BIG CLIPS MAKE IT EASIER FOR TARGET pansypoo53219 Jun 2016 #20
Also called voters. n/t jtuck004 Jun 2016 #24
They have a party for that jpak Jun 2016 #30
Gun owners are Dems, too. Inkfreak Jun 2016 #61
Yeah....Up theirs. ileus Jun 2016 #35
That's the spirit!!! jpak Jun 2016 #38
Don't forget the 'good guys' JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #37
Hear, hear! smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #48
I completely agree with OP..... Sivart Jun 2016 #49
An assault gun ban/buy-back would certainly challenged in court - as it should jpak Jun 2016 #50
"cowards" Skittles Jun 2016 #54
"no essential role in our society, except to endanger it." Beartracks Jun 2016 #56
The 2nd Amendment has failed jpak Jun 2016 #58
Piss on the second amendment. It's been used as a tool of oppression from the beginning. hunter Jun 2016 #60
and more than a few screwballs. n/t leeroysphitz Jun 2016 #57
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