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Adrahil

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33. EVERY company MUST "bake" risk into their business model.

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 01:03 PM

Jun 2016

For example, in aircraft, the standard is "seven nines." That is, we expect a safety-critical failure 1 in 10,000,000 times. Sometimes we stop there because that's the best we can do. Sometimes we stop there because the cost to go further would be very high. And in many case, it's impossible... I mean literally IMPOSSIBLE to make things completely safe.

The question is, did they take reasonable precautions? Some rumors popping out today suggest there may been some problems there. But rumors are not facts (at least, not yet).

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Because a warning sign wasn't explicit enough? NightWatcher Jun 2016 #1

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WDW has been opened since 1971 and gator attacks are rare NightWatcher Jun 2016 #7

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How about they got unlucky and after 45 years had a gator fatality? NightWatcher Jun 2016 #14

In a fit of pique, I also pretend different opinions are simply knee-jerk reactions LanternWaste Jun 2016 #42

It's not their first gator attack on a child, first fatality. Not the first attack. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #23

Did not know it was not the first attack. That does change everything. yourpaljoey Jun 2016 #35

1. This is not the first gator attack at WDW. see link below. 2. WDW has a Wildlife Control Team TeamPooka Jun 2016 #46

No it is NOT the first attack csziggy Jun 2016 #47

Signs are cheap and they had one saying no swimming yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #15

Disney's resort/grounds are entirely artificial. Which means it all exists by design. KittyWampus Jun 2016 #3

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Disney's Orlando area is built in swamp land, how do you think he was able to buy it all up? NightWatcher Jun 2016 #10

Thus, Disney failed to design public safety measures into their property. KittyWampus Jun 2016 #17

no, but a fence on that beach OriginalGeek Jun 2016 #21

Better be a big fence... Baclava Jun 2016 #25

Just another backyard lizard TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2016 #30

the beach area is small so it wouldn't need to be very long OriginalGeek Jun 2016 #32

Yeah, one little beach shouldn't be too hard to zone off, but all of Disney is an "improved" swamp Baclava Jun 2016 #44

This has just turned into an opportunity to attack a corporation liberal N proud Jun 2016 #49

We are talking about an unlit no swimming sign on a man made beach that Disney hollysmom Jun 2016 #36

Yeah they were probably making billions off that beach ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #5

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And they'll pay out the ass for it ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #12

2 grand a night to stay at that location yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #16

Depends on the room. A HERETIC I AM Jun 2016 #29

You are right. Thank you yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #56

I don't think they sat around and thought OriginalGeek Jun 2016 #9

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That caculation has been explicitly made before by Ford and they got caught Fumesucker Jun 2016 #37

Sure, "they had the gators under control." csziggy Jun 2016 #51

In Florida, one should assume any body of water has alligators in it. Throd Jun 2016 #13

Then there be signs in all languages warning guests of that threat? KittyWampus Jun 2016 #18

the signs will probably have several languages but Takket Jun 2016 #20

I think a sign with a pictograph of an alligator in public areas would suffice. Throd Jun 2016 #22

Visitors to Florida are not always aware of that maxim. trotsky Jun 2016 #31

This is such a silly argument Takket Jun 2016 #19

Good luck...this person is just trying to be disruptive, as he posted a similar OP yesterday cbdo2007 Jun 2016 #24

Not the first gator attack. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #28

I used to live by disney land in southern california GummyBearz Jun 2016 #34

Thank you for the lucid, intelligent response. We need more of COLGATE4 Jun 2016 #52

A good example of this, is the McDonalds hot coffee lawsuit. ronnie624 Jun 2016 #26

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Yea, I believe that inspired the scene in fight club... GummyBearz Jun 2016 #43

EVERY company MUST "bake" risk into their business model. Adrahil Jun 2016 #33

Adding a sand beach just attracts families to the water. That is hollysmom Jun 2016 #39

Does "No Swimming" mean "Do Not Even Get Close To The Water"? Fumesucker Jun 2016 #41

I agree that they should add signs. Adrahil Jun 2016 #45

Honestly, with the number of people through Disney every year forgotmylogin Jun 2016 #38

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Where have you seen a Ford Pinto recently? forgotmylogin Jun 2016 #50

I guess parents don't need to be responsible for thei children liberal N proud Jun 2016 #48

What did the parents do that you believe was negligent? COLGATE4 Jun 2016 #53

I live in FL greytdemocrat Jun 2016 #54

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meh CBGLuthier Jun 2016 #57

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