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Igel

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31. Don't need a background check to be a tutor.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:14 PM
Jun 2016

Or a parent. Or teach Sunday school (or Sabbath school). Or even Korean school, like some students I knew in California had gone to.

Just when the state or school district hires you or decides for matters of child welfare (or coercing a state monopoly) do you need certification. Then they make the rules for what you need to do to be hired. Pass a subject test? A pedagogy test? Have so many hours student teaching? So many college credits? Go through a registered, certified preparation program? Get your masters within X number of years? Get so many "credits" of professional development per year?

Didn't used to be that way. A few years ago Texas lost a mess of substitutes. They required that subs have so many college credits. My school literally had no warm adult bodies to put into some classrooms on high-teacher-absence days that year. They called in teachers from conference periods, they put administrators up through the principal in the classrooms, and then they moved sub-less classes into rooms with a sub. To reduce the agony to some schools, they assigned equal numbers of subs to schools to keep the "good" and well-behaved schools from having enough subs while the tough schools had nearly none.

But like voting, shacking up, or posting online, gun ownership isn't something the state does for you. You're not using state resources, like when you drive on public roads. There's a fundamental logical difference between the two. One right you just have; it is inalienable. The other right is provided by the state; it's utterly alienable.

If I owned 20k acres and wanted to, I could have cars and big rigs that are uninsured, unregistered, unhindered by safety inspections and speed limits and even let my 12-year-old drive them (as long as he's not hurt or put routinely at risk). I put them on the public roads, and suddenly I'm bound by all the laws stipulating conditions for using the public resource.

If I want to homeschool my kid, only in the most anti-homeschool states would I need to do anything like obtain certification. Even then, it's just if I want to not send my kid to a registered school. What I teach him on the weekend is entirely up to me.

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Alarming fact about background checks. [View all] imanamerican63 Jun 2016 OP
Same to practice as a lawyer jberryhill Jun 2016 #1
Hell, I'm a nobody IT guy at a bank KatyMan Jun 2016 #3
Police also DustyJoe Jun 2016 #56
IT guy at a bank? Straw Man Jun 2016 #60
Cuz gun culture is "special" Dem2 Jun 2016 #2
There is a background check system in place hack89 Jun 2016 #4
I am good with it! imanamerican63 Jun 2016 #6
What is a background law? nt hack89 Jun 2016 #8
A law about the ground in your backyard? (wink, n/t) PJMcK Jun 2016 #26
Only for gun sales through FFL dealers - not private sales or transfers jpak Jun 2016 #16
I am fine with UBCs - my state requires them hack89 Jun 2016 #17
UBC should be federal - otherwise neighboring states could be source of illegitimate guns jpak Jun 2016 #19
Federal government has no power over intrastate commerce hack89 Jun 2016 #20
That is such bullshit jpak Jun 2016 #35
We are talking about private sales of personal property hack89 Jun 2016 #39
Bullshit called and you got nothin' jpak Jun 2016 #40
UBCs have nothing to do with sales through dealers hack89 Jun 2016 #47
You can stretch the commerce clause pretty far metalbot Jun 2016 #63
A federal UBC bill would fail hack89 Jun 2016 #64
It's not unenforceable in the long run metalbot Jun 2016 #66
That assumes people comply with the law hack89 Jun 2016 #67
Depends on your state. Straw Man Jun 2016 #58
Ultimately, because your right to drive a big rig... malthaussen Jun 2016 #5
I understand this, the crux of my thought.... imanamerican63 Jun 2016 #18
But the "general well being" is world wide wally Jun 2016 #24
Neither is anyone's right to buy an automatic rifle Beaverhausen Jun 2016 #49
Automatic rifles have been very heavily regulated Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #52
But not semi-auto which are damn near as deadly and not that difficult to convert. Hoyt Jun 2016 #53
Not as if finds expedient treestar Jun 2016 #69
Who says expediency can't be rational? malthaussen Jun 2016 #71
I had to get a background check to be a substitute teacher kimbutgar Jun 2016 #7
Most likely you will need a background check. hack89 Jun 2016 #9
In some states you can outright buy a gun without a background check kimbutgar Jun 2016 #10
Yes.They are called private sales hack89 Jun 2016 #11
Just as you can teach a five year-old in a parking lot to read! scscholar Jun 2016 #12
Ignore hack's comments! imanamerican63 Jun 2016 #13
That is really fucked up! Yet you won't see gun humpers complaining Rex Jun 2016 #15
Got any facts to back that up? hack89 Jun 2016 #21
Here is one of several examples I found on the Internet for a tv station kimbutgar Jun 2016 #30
Not true. An occasional seller can set up a table, drape a confederate flag over it Hoyt Jun 2016 #54
Don't need a background check to be a tutor. Igel Jun 2016 #31
It depends ... Straw Man Jun 2016 #61
Well you see...gunz are special...they get to be treated like The Precious. Better not to ask. Rex Jun 2016 #14
Until you have a bad day and run over some children IronLionZion Jun 2016 #22
Because the NRA says so, buddy! world wide wally Jun 2016 #23
Look what you have to do to be a barber or cosmetologist in California! elljay Jun 2016 #25
What laws are the NRA not following? ileus Jun 2016 #27
What I should have said.... imanamerican63 Jun 2016 #28
22.000 Federal, State and Local gun laws and regulations so far DonP Jun 2016 #29
Very likely not effective and not consistent. Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #48
Good, let us know which ones you're wiling to get rid of before we pass more ineffective laws. DonP Jun 2016 #50
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #32
I think you're trolling. maxsolomon Jun 2016 #36
The fewer guns, the better. HuckleB Jun 2016 #43
Should be suffecient....unfortunately, they often aren't. jmg257 Jun 2016 #46
i remember WELL REGULATED is in the 2nd amendment as well. WELL REGULATED. pansypoo53219 Jun 2016 #33
ah, i think you forget maxsolomon Jun 2016 #37
Almost 50% of the current Supreme Court doesn't see it your way. Hoyt Jun 2016 #55
i didn't add :sarcasm: maxsolomon Jun 2016 #72
That's true, but.... Adrahil Jun 2016 #65
The Orlando shooter passed two background checks. former9thward Jun 2016 #34
We haven't implemented background checks for guns that mean jack. HuckleB Jun 2016 #42
What are background checks "that mean jack"? former9thward Jun 2016 #44
Of course you have. HuckleB Jun 2016 #45
Not much. Straw Man Jun 2016 #59
I think people don't understand what the background check is. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #62
Because of the 2nd Amendment Frank Cannon Jun 2016 #38
Tell it to a health care provider, hell, tell it to a day care provider. HuckleB Jun 2016 #41
Every sale of a new gun goes through a FFL and a federal background check. jtx Jun 2016 #51
Actually, Abq_Sarah Jun 2016 #57
hell, i had to get a background check to be a volunteer. mopinko Jun 2016 #68
There is no constitutional right to drive a semi truck. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #70
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