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librarylu

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16. Nonsense

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 06:26 PM

Jun 2016

Mass shooters usually are disturbed young men. So far there's no evidence the attack was anything else.

I like evidence with my beliefs.

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2 months before his murder spree, Mateen signed his house over to his Brother-in-law [View all] cali Jun 2016 OP

Hmmm interesting how he didn't sign it over katsy Jun 2016 #1

He couldn't pull it on you LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #7

Actually it did happen to me. katsy Jun 2016 #14

Depending on the state, that may not be true Ex Lurker Jun 2016 #25

Sounds like that was your husbands home. woolldog Jun 2016 #85

By the way . . . RockaFowler Jun 2016 #2

muslims are prohibited from paying interest or borrowing money. mopinko Jun 2016 #50

Mateen borrowed $76,000 from a bank to buy the house. n/t JimDandy Jun 2016 #76

Stranger and stranger........ forthemiddle Jun 2016 #3

How could she not be in on it - especially with this transfer of ownership? MariaThinks Jun 2016 #9

Of course it was planned - this is to protect the property against civil suits. Yo_Mama Jun 2016 #13

Not really. Possibly a criminal action of another kind. JimDandy Jun 2016 #20

yep 840high Jun 2016 #34

His wife and family were in on it. I hope they get life in prison and live to a thousand 4139 Jun 2016 #4

You know this based on a story in the Daily Mail? librarylu Jun 2016 #11

British agencies Aerows Jun 2016 #51

I know this may not matter to you librarylu Jun 2016 #59

Gee, that smells like ... Aerows Jun 2016 #61

They had no grounds to keep him on the list at the time. librarylu Jun 2016 #63

As a matter of fact, I am a speed reader. Aerows Jun 2016 #65

You didn't answer the question. librarylu Jun 2016 #67

You didn't ask a question. Aerows Jun 2016 #68

This is the question I asked: librarylu Jun 2016 #69

Do you work for the FBI? Aerows Jun 2016 #70

You still didn't answer the question. librarylu Jun 2016 #72

Nor will I. Aerows Jun 2016 #73

As you wish. librarylu Jun 2016 #75

Wonder how US security orgs will pooh-pooh that? They fucked up... countryjake Jun 2016 #5

Was it inept to not follow up librarylu Jun 2016 #15

Failures Aerows Jun 2016 #45

A gun store so rattled by a customer they refuse to sell anything...damn straight! countryjake Jun 2016 #77

If the store had gotten a name, librarylu Jun 2016 #78

I've not heard a thing about Mateen's current wife vanishing & I have a tv ... countryjake Jun 2016 #80

Apparently the Sun Sentinel reported she vanished. librarylu Jun 2016 #92

The family is complicit and DUers have been falling for their bullshit due to anti-gay bias. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #6

Reading posts like that, I wanted to ask, "Ever had the FBI at your door?" countryjake Jun 2016 #8

or trying to defend the indefensible. MariaThinks Jun 2016 #10

More like throwing gays under bus to appear Islamic tolerant FLPanhandle Jun 2016 #12

It's sick to judge librarylu Jun 2016 #18

I see it as throwing Gays under the bus to deflect from the fact the Guy was first and foremost a King_David Jun 2016 #23

Islamic fundamentalist terrorist. Aerows Jun 2016 #30

Agree King_David Jun 2016 #31

It's horrific. Aerows Jun 2016 #33

Sounds more like librarylu Jun 2016 #53

Yep King_David Jun 2016 #22

Bingo. Aerows Jun 2016 #32

.that^ 840high Jun 2016 #36

Nonsense librarylu Jun 2016 #16

There is evidence that he was disturbed. There is also evidence cali Jun 2016 #19

There was an early report librarylu Jun 2016 #21

You present his father as some sterling source of information but he was posting anti gay material Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #24

Source? librarylu Jun 2016 #29

You serious? 'Can we blame her'.? King_David Jun 2016 #37

I said I, not we. librarylu Jun 2016 #42

Whatever type of PR you are attempting to do in this thread Aerows Jun 2016 #71

My dad was a reporter early in his career. librarylu Jun 2016 #74

49 murders. Lynching is murder. Execution without authority. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #84

No, I'm not. librarylu Jun 2016 #93

I said to another brother, perhaps we are just being ungrateful. Behind the Aegis Jun 2016 #97

The man you tout said this on Monday morning with 49 funerals being planned: Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #83

I know what he said. librarylu Jun 2016 #87

You and you alone introduced Mateen's bigoted father into this thread and touted him: Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #109

I said no such thing. librarylu Jun 2016 #112

He was a very disturbed child - hands "on other children" womanofthehills Jun 2016 #91

I wonder if therapy instead of discipline librarylu Jun 2016 #95

Right there with you. Aerows Jun 2016 #28

... countryjake Jun 2016 #43

Of course the family was complicit. Aerows Jun 2016 #47

+10000 Blue. Big hugs to you and the rest of the LGBT community riderinthestorm Jun 2016 #54

Heterosexism (aka straight privilege) and homophobia often go hand in had. Behind the Aegis Jun 2016 #64

Wife #1 said he was a batterer/control freak. Dollars to holes in donuts, wife #2 ... Hekate Jun 2016 #17

This mass murderer is unusal in that his father posted hateful crap about the minority his son Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #26

It's the Islamic ideology that caused the massacre whether the killer was gay or not Fumesucker Jun 2016 #40

This is wingerishly bigoted, nothing about Islam caused the massacre... nothing uponit7771 Jun 2016 #49

Tell it to someone who wouldn't be under a death sentence in some Islamic nations Fumesucker Jun 2016 #55

same for some christian nations ... bigotry of all kinds suck uponit7771 Jun 2016 #58

All in all I'd rather be in Philadelphia Fumesucker Jun 2016 #60

religion is often used as an excuse for murder and many other horrible things JI7 Jun 2016 #56

And yet neither you nor the others pitching defense for the family address the father's horrifying Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #81

I also don't live on tv, I have work to do so I didn't see his fathers stupid statements... I've... uponit7771 Jun 2016 #89

You don't want to discuss because you are here to cast bait. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #110

And nothing about Christianity kills abortionists TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2016 #94

+1, the Islamophobia is a stench right now uponit7771 Jun 2016 #103

I think you might not agree with my point of view TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2016 #113

Then why single out Islam and not homogenize the statement? ALL religions have swaths uponit7771 Jun 2016 #117

The term "radical Islam" TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2016 #120

"nothing about Islam caused the massacre" oberliner Jun 2016 #101

Cause I'm not a bigot uponit7771 Jun 2016 #102

What do you mean by that? oberliner Jun 2016 #105

Yes, mostly bigots and ignorant people assert the opposite uponit7771 Jun 2016 #106

What about the middle ground? oberliner Jun 2016 #108

There's no middle ground in bigotry, its not progressive at all. The "middle ground" here is the... uponit7771 Jun 2016 #119

OK oberliner Jun 2016 #121

What about the two pilgrims to the Middle East forthemiddle Jun 2016 #57

I don't care what bigots and racist make up to justify their bigotry, nothing about Islam cause the uponit7771 Jun 2016 #100

At least 7 countries execute LGBT, they are all Islamic countries and they say they kill us because Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #111

So does Christianity in its perverted forms, no need to single out Islam. and thanks uponit7771 Jun 2016 #118

Yes, a wife beater. librarylu Jun 2016 #115

Sounds like he was getting ready to say goodbye to life. Rex Jun 2016 #27

The reason he was scouting Disney mnhtnbb Jun 2016 #35

Or, ensuring that the family's finances couldn't be affected after his attack ... countryjake Jun 2016 #38

so he could continue killing longer and more people JI7 Jun 2016 #44

With a power-crazed ego like that, maybe he thought he'd get away... countryjake Jun 2016 #52

Yes, long term plan Liberal_in_LA Jun 2016 #39

the entire family is fucked up , the son will grow up to learn his parents i did not love him JI7 Jun 2016 #41

The father is a piece of work, the wife I don't know... sounds like she didn't know shit the way the uponit7771 Jun 2016 #48

People are looking for a boogyman and going after the wife based off LEO leaks. I don't take them uponit7771 Jun 2016 #46

Mateen murdered 49 people, there is no 'looking for a boogyman' in that, he was a monster and Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #86

I'm talking about his wife, blaming her for his actions and trying to peg her with anything in ... uponit7771 Jun 2016 #88

He killed 49 people. You attack me personally. Interesting choice. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #107

This is getting weirder and weirder. Initech Jun 2016 #62

Almost sounds like a more violent version of the Westboro Baptist church. gordianot Jun 2016 #66

Quitclaim deeds don't specify the actual amount of money that changes hands. pnwmom Jun 2016 #79

Excellent point. Justice Jun 2016 #82

Right. For example, maybe he was having money issues -- which could pnwmom Jun 2016 #90

Kick sarcasmo Jun 2016 #96

Deed was prepared by an estate attorney as well. He still has his condo, though. flvegan Jun 2016 #98

Please read librarylu Jun 2016 #99

Could be simple LynnTTT Jun 2016 #104

Sure had lots of real estate for a randomly employed 'security guard'. Owned homes, took regular Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #114

Fuck the Daily Mail. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #116

I watched Jamie Lee Curtis movies for weeks... leeroysphitz Jun 2016 #122