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JackRiddler

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267. Sorry, the movie, character and plot are irrelevant.

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 10:30 PM

Jun 2016

This is a poster on the street. It is a paid advertisement targeting the entire public. Currently you will see it all over New York City, I can assure you, whether you want to or not. Everyone sees the poster, whether or not they will ever see the movie, or ever know what the movie is about, who the X-Men are or who Mystique is, or ever care about it. The poster connotes and promotes independently of what the message of the movie may be. The poster forces itself on millions of eyeballs involuntarily. (I can't believe how this elementary point appears to escape a segment of a film's pre-sold fandom every time there is an issue about posters.)

At the very least, the distributors are engaging in a witting public display of sexualized violence against women and not caring about it because they have calculated that it will sell the movie more than not.

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Why The Internet Is Disturbed By This �X-Men� Poster *Trigger Warning* [View all] sheshe2 Jun 2016 OP

I get that yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #1

No disagreement but... PJMcK Jun 2016 #10

Not retired, taken from FOX and given back to Marvel so they can do it right Rosco T. Jun 2016 #12

Do it right? LostOne4Ever Jun 2016 #141

I also think the IPs being in separate hands keeps MCU from getting too bloated. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2016 #185

I didn't know part 1 of your post but appreciate the knowledge yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #14

It'll never be the last one. Chan790 Jun 2016 #240

It's not the same; greiner3 Jun 2016 #39

Angelina Jolie has beaten up and been beat up by males in her movies for years. Calista241 Jun 2016 #236

Jennifer Lawrence may have no say whatsoever on the poster. JackRiddler Jun 2016 #272

my take on it quickesst Jun 2016 #2

She's also one of the X men that can hold her own in a physical fight. Volaris Jun 2016 #163

Sounds reasonable to me quickesst Jun 2016 #169

I see her in that position and I see a moment Bettie Jun 2016 #171

Exactly!! quickesst Jun 2016 #219

She,'s not portrayed in the poster as ,'poweful"... whathehell Jun 2016 #179

Yes, because the idea behind the poster is to show a character (Mystique) who is a known butt-kicker Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2016 #197

Okay...I'm not that familiar with the series whathehell Jun 2016 #211

Hopefully, this will help shed more light on the character -- Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2016 #217

My opinion quickesst Jun 2016 #226

Please.'re-read my post.. whathehell Jun 2016 #230

Sorry, the movie, character and plot are irrelevant. JackRiddler Jun 2016 #267

It seems.. quickesst Jun 2016 #274

I'm sorry, you are missing the point. JackRiddler Jun 2016 #275

How do these people go outside...? TipTok Jun 2016 #3

Agree, Tiptok SCantiGOP Jun 2016 #5

Hey Strom Jr!! CatWoman Jun 2016 #245

Catwoman SCantiGOP Jun 2016 #248

you are more optimistic than I am CatWoman Jun 2016 #252

18 houses. SCantiGOP Jun 2016 #261

They're not happy unless everyone around them is miserable. Skeeter Barnes Jun 2016 #48

I don't like the term "outside". Please use non-roofedness in the future. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2016 #93

Show some sensitivity... TipTok Jun 2016 #110

You got me there. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2016 #111

Oh my GummyBearz Jun 2016 #238

How do these people go outside...? AlbertCat Jun 2016 #191

The poster is not a superhero movie. JackRiddler Jun 2016 #268

Who cares if they see it? TipTok Jun 2016 #276

It's not using "sexy women" to sell films. JackRiddler Jun 2016 #277

I understand on an intellectual level... TipTok Jun 2016 #280

This is not "society." JackRiddler Jun 2016 #281

Billboards are out in society... TipTok Jun 2016 #282

I think advertisers should get whatever they want. JackRiddler Jun 2016 #284

Its a sexy woman in a fight.... TipTok Jun 2016 #286

They can pick a different image to promote the movie... JackRiddler Jun 2016 #287

I think you are projecting a bit... TipTok Jun 2016 #288

I think you are denying more than a bit. JackRiddler Jun 2016 #289

My image was from a previous one... TipTok Jun 2016 #290

Meh. You are the one pretending to be image-illiterate. JackRiddler Jun 2016 #291

Military recruitment ad wouldn't do much good... TipTok Jun 2016 #292

I didn't see it two weeks ago. JackRiddler Jun 2016 #293

Saw the movie with my former wife (separated). Neither of us mentioned that scene afterwards. mikehiggins Jun 2016 #4

Please, stop trying to drag context into it ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #9

Though perhaps not those with the most right to complain -- females in fandom/ons/etc. moriah Jun 2016 #149

A poster featuring Jennifer Lopez in "Enough" being choked would be over the line ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #253

They were pretty careful with triggering imagery in trailers, etc there. moriah Jun 2016 #266

More fan discussion of what's in the movies. JackRiddler Jun 2016 #279

The movie is not the context. JackRiddler Jun 2016 #269

No context? dark forest Jun 2016 #6

So what? JackRiddler Jun 2016 #283

Oh please, she probably ends up kicking that thing's ass. Throd Jun 2016 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #33

ACK!! SPOILER ALERT PLEASE! DeadLetterOffice Jun 2016 #41

Dude...wtf? Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #53

only in the next movie Mystique turns out to be a mole Bucky Jun 2016 #67

Yep...an actual mole. Pic related: Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #207

Changed her name to Mole-Woman Bucky Jun 2016 #235

If the internet is disturbed then the internet is fucked. AngryAmish Jun 2016 #8

Yes, when the internet and women IRL sheshe2 Jun 2016 #17

You realize this is not real life, yes? AngryAmish Jun 2016 #18

OMG!!! I choked! Quackers Jun 2016 #28

This... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #54

Went staright over your head. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #73

Jury results - LEAVE IT 6-1 George II Jun 2016 #77

OMG. Thank you George. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #80

look away child! LOOK AWAY! snooper2 Jun 2016 #176

You trying to tie an X-Men poster to any serious feminist cause is hilariously sad. phleshdef Jun 2016 #204

The poster takes up space in real life, in a public area. JackRiddler Jun 2016 #285

What does this have to do with marriage? Do you mean misogyny? Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2016 #216

I wonder if this one will make it to 377 Major Nikon Jun 2016 #11

Because people are running out of real problems. linuxman Jun 2016 #13

VAW is no longer a real problem. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #20

This may come as a shock to you, but X-men is a movie. linuxman Jun 2016 #22

Women take a hit every day and we keep going. nt sheshe2 Jun 2016 #92

Yet this (fictional) movie seems to have stopped a few others cold. linuxman Jun 2016 #96

You just don't get it. nt sheshe2 Jun 2016 #100

Oh. Okay then. linuxman Jun 2016 #102

There is nothing to get. You are absurd. phleshdef Jun 2016 #200

And you don't know what you are talking about Loki Liesmith Jun 2016 #259

Well you don't know what you are talking about... sheshe2 Jun 2016 #260

So, no more female superheroes Bettie Jun 2016 #173

This movie poster is not a problem. If it is a problem, you're going to need to go back in time DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2016 #90

VAW is not a big thing? Alrighty then. nt sheshe2 Jun 2016 #94

You've failed at trying to put words in my mouth. Do you recall sentence diagramming from school? DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2016 #97

Nobody said that but you. linuxman Jun 2016 #98

It's slightly more prevalent than violence against men in a domestic context. sibelian Jun 2016 #156

The tactic 'putting words into the mouths of others' is a bully's tactic, it is a form of rhetorical Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #165

I would disagree skepticscott Jun 2016 #181

Maybe you want all the female superheroes... TipTok Jun 2016 #114

I suspect around 50 /50. AlbertCat Jun 2016 #195

Are DU'ers actually suggesting you... yallerdawg Jun 2016 #15

"Casual internet misogyny." sheshe2 Jun 2016 #16

This is a venue where a woman can be told okasha Jun 2016 #24

Bricks are okay here. A leave!!!!!! sheshe2 Jun 2016 #29

Got your back, sister. okasha Jun 2016 #113

Love you back! sheshe2 Jun 2016 #131

"the victim in that picture is not white, and her attacker is?" melman Jun 2016 #32

The woman in the picture can become any color she wants. christx30 Jun 2016 #40

Two points. okasha Jun 2016 #123

Yes! sheshe2 Jun 2016 #132

I agree about the VAW aspect, but I really don't understand the color argument... Humanist_Activist Jun 2016 #143

It's evident to anyone who has bothered to educate themselves, okasha skepticscott Jun 2016 #170

you are correct! Remember the outrage when this came out! snooper2 Jun 2016 #180

Two points phleshdef Jun 2016 #201

How do you know it is a man's hand? Egnever Jun 2016 #234

Species: opposable thumb. okasha Jun 2016 #265

"Am I the only person to note that the victim in that picture is not white, and her attacker is?" Lordquinton Jun 2016 #144

Yes. You are the only person to notice that. sibelian Jun 2016 #159

Her coloration (blue) has nothing to do with race skepticscott Jun 2016 #162

Have you seen this! I walked out of this movie, blatant shaming- snooper2 Jun 2016 #178

Help help...I'm being repressed. Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #56

I didn't vote for you... TipTok Jun 2016 #119

Love it... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #120

I try not to associate with anyone... TipTok Jun 2016 #124

. Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #126

People that can't see misogyny are bound to repeat it. William769 Jun 2016 #19

Thank you. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #21

And people that see it when nothing is there...? n/t A Simple Game Jun 2016 #25

See post #19. William769 Jun 2016 #27

In case you didn't notice, that was the post I was responding to. A Simple Game Jun 2016 #37

Still same response. William769 Jun 2016 #44

I see you have the time to respond, could it be you don't want to answer in which A Simple Game Jun 2016 #172

I disagree. This is an action film Quackers Jun 2016 #23

This is not a film. JackRiddler Jun 2016 #278

Where's the context? Matrosov Jun 2016 #26

Hmmm... sheshe2 Jun 2016 #55

Why not, who doesn't like shapeshifting badass hottie! snooper2 Jun 2016 #183

Lets just not cast any women in action movies, so you wont be offended. Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #30

Boom... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #86

Or... rpannier Jun 2016 #101

So now Mutants want equal rights? Reter Jun 2016 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #36

Seriously, stop with the plot reveals DeadLetterOffice Jun 2016 #42

So sorry. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #45

Self delete... TipTok Jun 2016 #122

Done, and it is worth seeing. Not as good as Captain America Civil War Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #125

You just saved people the trouble of watching the movie. Nicely done. Orrex Jun 2016 #43

Which is why I said "Mystique is mostly a villain anyway" Reter Jun 2016 #57

Which is more of a threat? cagefreesoylentgreen Jun 2016 #34

Your post is sheshe2 Jun 2016 #46

Actually cagefreesoylentgreen Jun 2016 #50

So please. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #52

"Handle" is another word for "username" EvolveOrConvolve Jun 2016 #66

Blue lives matter! X_Digger Jun 2016 #58

You are a DU monitor? sheshe2 Jun 2016 #59

Your post is Rather antagonistic toward me. AlbertCat Jun 2016 #198

This was an epic, life or death struggle in a super hero movie for the fate of the world. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #35

No. The movie is irrelevant. JackRiddler Jun 2016 #270

Mystique is a violent, dangerous, psychopath of a woman IronLionZion Jun 2016 #38

Thanks ILZ. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #49

Anyone "sold" expecting going to see women lose is going to be very disappointed if there are..... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #60

Also, his arm is too short in that poster. Orrex Jun 2016 #47

He's a mutant. It might just be his birth defect Bucky Jun 2016 #63

Nice post, Winter Soldier. Orrex Jun 2016 #64

In this case... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #51

Hey Buddy, sheshe2 Jun 2016 #69

You are 100% correct... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #71

What would please me... sheshe2 Jun 2016 #133

Are you okay with violence... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #135

Because you didn't answer my question... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #136

Hey Bud. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #138

Sheshe.... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #140

Apparently, female protagonists may only fight female antagonists demwing Jun 2016 #61

Yep, nothing like some good old fashioned girl-on-girl action.... truebrit71 Jun 2016 #174

I am intrigued: how would they want "a gay male being strangled by a hetero" depicted? MisterP Jun 2016 #62

it doesn't help matters the character is shown running around naked through the whole movie Bucky Jun 2016 #65

Putting the poster aside....Are you saying no female character can be harmed? davidn3600 Jun 2016 #68

Whoooosh! sheshe2 Jun 2016 #70

That's because you reached really... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #72

Buddy. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #74

And you are doing the feminist movement a great disservice... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #76

I called people names? sheshe2 Jun 2016 #78

I didn't say "women"...YOU just did. Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #81

Why even bother melman Jun 2016 #112

:( sheshe2 Jun 2016 #134

Indeed, whoosh. So much so that it seems deliberate. JackRiddler Jun 2016 #273

Somebody is always disturbed by something mythology Jun 2016 #75

They're also not using actually blue actors to portray blue characters. Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #79

. Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #82

You mean they're.. *gasp* actors in blue-face?!?? X_Digger Jun 2016 #87

The Blue Man Group was busy. Dr. Strange Jun 2016 #95

Yet another slight for Tobias! opiate69 Jun 2016 #104

... Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #105

Is anybody mad that it happens in the movie? Iggo Jun 2016 #83

Who knows... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #84

The movie is different Bradical79 Jun 2016 #115

Within the whole scene where it happened, it works. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #128

Now that you mention it, I'm disgusted with it too. Sick of it. So pervasive. lostnfound Jun 2016 #85

What would your suggestion be? Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #88

And how would one enact this hypothetical non-encountering of violence in movies? DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2016 #91

I agree... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #99

Some people thrive on drama. I can do without it. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2016 #103

Just don't show it as the centerpiece ad. lostnfound Jun 2016 #158

Everything is a trigger warning to the internet. romanic Jun 2016 #89

I'll have you know rolly eyes are my trigger. linuxman Jun 2016 #107

Sorry. romanic Jun 2016 #127

There's a line... TipTok Jun 2016 #231

. linuxman Jun 2016 #106

You missed the point. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #109

Don't know what INL is, linuxman Jun 2016 #116

I meant in real life...... sheshe2 Jun 2016 #121

Then you sure picked a shitty example to talk about it. linuxman Jun 2016 #129

"In a practical sense." sheshe2 Jun 2016 #137

You weren't talking about domestic violence until this post. linuxman Jun 2016 #167

This is what sells ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #108

Sweet lawd! sheshe2 Jun 2016 #117

I know ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #190

Yet melman Jun 2016 #118

What's your point? ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #189

The point is melman Jun 2016 #237

Because you don't show your new villain getting their ass kicked in promotion TheKentuckian Jun 2016 #151

We are talking about an ad for a movie ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #188

... sibelian Jun 2016 #157

And what is the focus here? ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #187

To Kick Ass, Or not to Kick Ass.... snooper2 Jun 2016 #192

True. ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #196

Using an attractive actress... TipTok Jun 2016 #232

what is really sad is DonCoquixote Jun 2016 #130

They are all Panned? LostOne4Ever Jun 2016 #139

Geeze NobodyHere Jun 2016 #142

He's the bad guy in the movie it's supposed to be offensive. craigmatic Jun 2016 #145

They went with a cheap shot, but the entire industry is that way now. Rex Jun 2016 #146

Just imagine if it had been a picture of Spiderwoman's butt strangling her! Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #147

The marvel drawing heard around the world. Rex Jun 2016 #148

Full disclosure: Comics and superheroes, etc. were just never my bag. Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #150

I was more a Piers Anthony nerd then an Xmen nerd. Rex Jun 2016 #212

You're so brave for bringing this up on this board. prayin4rain Jun 2016 #152

"brave" is the new...[insert adjective here] uhnope Jun 2016 #153

It isn't brave. sibelian Jun 2016 #155

Wonder if people are capable of rational thought? or if poutrage is the way of the future? ileus Jun 2016 #154

Good grief... truebrit71 Jun 2016 #160

They know their market SecularMotion Jun 2016 #161

I'm not offended by this at all. Captain Stern Jun 2016 #164

I'd like the OP and the author of this piece to very specifically explain how they imagine a Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #166

Holy shit, which idiot thought this was a good idea? Odin2005 Jun 2016 #168

Oh Jesus S. Christ on a fucking Hoverboard- What stupid idiocy... snooper2 Jun 2016 #175

The irony is the film is very pro-woman. apnu Jun 2016 #177

Good for the movie. The poster is not. JackRiddler Jun 2016 #271

Is Mystique female? Act_of_Reparation Jun 2016 #182

Now *that* is an interesting point ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #193

Anyone that is deeply offended by this is pathetic. DesMoinesDem Jun 2016 #184

Fuck this crap. MohRokTah Jun 2016 #186

You can't demand women be equal combatants and then complain about violence against them. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2016 #194

More over the top people looking for imaginary sexism phleshdef Jun 2016 #199

"Imaginary sexism" ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #202

There is real sexism. Idiots who go off about nothing burgers... phleshdef Jun 2016 #203

And who decides? ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #205

ME. phleshdef Jun 2016 #206

Okey dokey. ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #208

For someone griping about violence against women you have an interesting choice of signature imagery Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2016 #215

My favorite fucking movies ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #218

A movie where a woman fleeing a violent partner is shot through the head. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2016 #220

See that's my favorite fucking scene ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #221

Are you saying, because Beatrix is able to not remain a victim but ultimately gains the upper hand Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2016 #223

I consider it a fable of sorts ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #224

No, what I'm saying is you're protesting the movie in the OP even though Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2016 #227

First, I'm not protesting the movie ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #228

An ad that is trying to show the magnitude of the threat posed by the villain by showing Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2016 #229

WTF??? ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #249

That sounds more like your problem. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2016 #255

I think maybe they need to stop casting women in these kind of movies. hughee99 Jun 2016 #209

It's not fight scenes ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #210

I have not seen "The Hateful Eight" but it sounds like one could make the argument hughee99 Jun 2016 #213

That reality doesn't exist, and is part of the point ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #214

#MutantLivesMatter! Heeeeers Johnny Jun 2016 #222

2 or 3 idiotic bloggers do not = "the internet" TheSarcastinator Jun 2016 #225

Anybody aware of what "the internet" has brought the collective overmind over the past 20 years Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #242

So female super heroes can't fight? Egnever Jun 2016 #233

It's Apocalypse. Arkana Jun 2016 #239

THIRTEEN MORE DAYS! Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #243

20th Century Fox has now apologized for the ad called "casual violence against women." IronLionZion Jun 2016 #241

Thank you. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #244

Thank God, Our Long National Nightmare Is Over. Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #246

Maybe some folks here should just pretend she's a Millennial Bernie Sanders supporter Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #247

For reals opiate69 Jun 2016 #262

Two shitty posts that should have been hidden Orrex Jun 2016 #264

I can't agree with it being offensive due to violence against women... PersonNumber503602 Jun 2016 #250

Well.... sheshe2 Jun 2016 #251

Probably just to console the inconsolable. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2016 #256

When the cost of the apology is balanced against the free publicity generated by the "outrage" Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #257

I have yet to see anything whatsoever that 'the internet' is upset about... Shandris Jun 2016 #254

Thanks for the trigger warning GummyBearz Jun 2016 #258

There is no context in the ad, just a woman getting strangled. Nevernose Jun 2016 #263