2 months before his murder spree, Mateen signed his house over to his Brother-in-law

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78. If the store had gotten a name,

address, phone number, something, maybe they could have tracked him. The story I read didn't mention the video, I don't think. Maybe it wouldn't have been clear enough to get any kind of positive ID. They'd have been looking for a moving needle in a haystack not even knowing where the guy was from.

I apparently am too naive to recognize MSM propaganda if I see it. All the stories I've seen are on the Net (I don't have TV) and I try to stick to the videos of the actual people speaking, not just the possibly inaccurate story.

According to some of the Pulse regulars, especially Chris Callen, Mateen was something of a regular too for around three years. Then there's the dating site and so on, like going to gay bars in college. I don't think all that is an effort to push it back on gays, especially when the information is coming from gays.

Asking a simple question about what more the FBI could have done isn't letting the authorities "off the hook", IMO. They had to have probable cause and there just wasn't any after 2014. Maybe if Noor had had exact knowledge of what he was planning to do when and where and reported it they could have detained him but she didn't and they didn't. Without specific knowledge it would be like trying to predict the time and exact location of a lightning strike.

A friend of one of my sons lived next door to the bomb builder in the bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993. He said there was no indication he was anything other than a nice normal guy. That one was definitely a well planned terrorist attack and the FBI did have information but the bombing happened anyway.

I'm just concerned that Mateen's family is getting blamed and even accused of being part of it when the evidence isn't pointing that way. If it turns out they were involved and it was a genuine terrorist attack I will happily eat my words but I have an aversion to kangaroo courts, even when they're just on threads on forums.

If Noor has truly vanished I'm sure the FBI is expending every effort to find her. Has there been any more word on this?