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That creak is the tipping point to the fascist state, PDJane Jun 2012 #1
Technically, it almost always probably was. But there was a time you could... Poll_Blind Jun 2012 #5
If we aren't exceptional why do we get to use up so much more resources per capita than others? dkf Jun 2012 #11
I keep getting hammered when I point that out. PDJane Jun 2012 #13
Are pigs exceptional just because they are, well, pigs? n/t jtuck004 Jun 2012 #22
And we are the pigs? Lol. dkf Jun 2012 #27
Thought you might like that one <G> n/t jtuck004 Jun 2012 #45
Not for long. That is not going to last. JDPriestly Jun 2012 #43
Buy vintage or used - I will NOT pay for clothes Made in China adigal Jun 2012 #57
Excellent analysis MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #2
2000 was the tipping point. ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #9
I see two different dates airplaneman Jun 2012 #14
It maybe can be fixed after some period of time, but it's what's going to... Poll_Blind Jun 2012 #12
i think the development of fascism in Italy is a better analogy. sudopod Jun 2012 #29
But even Germany got fixed Blue_In_AK Jun 2012 #41
Fixed how? Plucketeer Jun 2012 #53
Perhaps we should look to the Scandanavian countries for some guidance MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #55
Wish I could give you a good argument. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #3
It's a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah. Zalatix Jun 2012 #4
"...and The Road for everyone else." (Shudder) That's a... Poll_Blind Jun 2012 #21
Most people don't think it's THAT bad. Zalatix Jun 2012 #30
barbara satan bush and her eugenics sickness coming to roost. Dont call me Shirley Jun 2012 #36
Which is why President Obama said we're entering into an era of social Darwinism. Zalatix Jun 2012 #48
I feel it's like a run-away train. Alexander Cockburn wrote an article "So Who's the FAscist Here?" rhett o rick Jun 2012 #6
"How can we get a corrupt Congress to reform itself?" I don't think it can. I think we've... Poll_Blind Jun 2012 #33
I am afraid I agree. We have crossed the line. rhett o rick Jun 2012 #34
People hate it when you mention mick063 Jun 2012 #7
agree Mick oldhippydude Jun 2012 #15
I agree, plez see post 6. nm rhett o rick Jun 2012 #35
Apt in some respects, not in others kurt_cagle Jun 2012 #40
your choices ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #8
I too believe that we have crossed the Rubicon me b zola Jun 2012 #10
That's similiar to what I was trying to say here......... socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #16
And there's the rub: Even if you could get fair elections, you still... Poll_Blind Jun 2012 #58
What urgently needs to be done is to liquidate the empire Wolf Frankula Jun 2012 #17
I have been hearing that creak ever since the 2002passage of the Authorization to Use Military Force patrice Jun 2012 #18
I agree that it's too late even for reforms......... socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #19
Nobody is going to do that........ Capt.Rocky300 Jun 2012 #24
Too bad then........... socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #20
As long as we keep increasing military spending ...everything will be fine. L0oniX Jun 2012 #23
Please. You're forgetting tax cuts for the rich, er, job GODS. nt valerief Jun 2012 #26
I keep saying we're the new USSR. We're the USSA. nt valerief Jun 2012 #25
Did you see the movie "The Day After Tomorrow" Dont call me Shirley Jun 2012 #38
The VP in the movie screams "Cheney". Odin2005 Jun 2012 #62
I heard it a few years ago. caseymoz Jun 2012 #28
Yes kurt_cagle Jun 2012 #32
Of course progressives arent the problem but the centrists would tell you different. rhett o rick Jun 2012 #39
Centrists are ... kurt_cagle Jun 2012 #46
The Third Way apologists are not "centrists." woo me with science Jun 2012 #51
I completely agree. However, it's the centrists that fight for status quo rhett o rick Jun 2012 #52
Problems are mounting faster than we can tackle them CanonRay Jun 2012 #54
People are just hearing this "creak" now? kurt_cagle Jun 2012 #31
Bush I was the tipping point (and Clinton pushed us farther) FarCenter Jun 2012 #37
I wish you were wrong.. 99Forever Jun 2012 #44
I thought that point was passed long ago stupidicus Jun 2012 #47
You make your point really well. bleever Jun 2012 #49
Sadly,....I agree /nt Dragonfli Jun 2012 #50
This is a hard thread to read but so damn important I carefully read every post riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #56
There is always someone saying this treestar Jun 2012 #59
At what point felix_numinous Jun 2012 #60
We have been kicking the can down the road for over 30 years Odin2005 Jun 2012 #61
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