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Behind the Aegis

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97. I said to another brother, perhaps we are just being ungrateful.

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 05:35 PM

Jun 2016

What ever would we do if we did have all these people 'splainin' to us what is homophobic and what isn't?! Where ever would we be?! Perhaps we are all self-loathing?! We also aren't "mourning" properly and wouldn't know this were it not for these giving souls. Between shit like that bullshit "article" about the FBI telling the family to ]Inot speak about his alleged homosexuality, the constant "explaining" the need for codified homophobia with the blood donation laws, the "NO! It isn't that it's self-loathing/NRA/guns/Trump who are responsible" posts and the constant "he was a self loathing homo and I knew it!" self-congratulatory posts by people who know all about homosexuals and homophobia, it has been beyond frustrating; it is been down right anger-provoking!

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2 months before his murder spree, Mateen signed his house over to his Brother-in-law [View all] cali Jun 2016 OP

Hmmm interesting how he didn't sign it over katsy Jun 2016 #1

He couldn't pull it on you LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #7

Actually it did happen to me. katsy Jun 2016 #14

Depending on the state, that may not be true Ex Lurker Jun 2016 #25

Sounds like that was your husbands home. woolldog Jun 2016 #85

By the way . . . RockaFowler Jun 2016 #2

muslims are prohibited from paying interest or borrowing money. mopinko Jun 2016 #50

Mateen borrowed $76,000 from a bank to buy the house. n/t JimDandy Jun 2016 #76

Stranger and stranger........ forthemiddle Jun 2016 #3

How could she not be in on it - especially with this transfer of ownership? MariaThinks Jun 2016 #9

Of course it was planned - this is to protect the property against civil suits. Yo_Mama Jun 2016 #13

Not really. Possibly a criminal action of another kind. JimDandy Jun 2016 #20

yep 840high Jun 2016 #34

His wife and family were in on it. I hope they get life in prison and live to a thousand 4139 Jun 2016 #4

You know this based on a story in the Daily Mail? librarylu Jun 2016 #11

British agencies Aerows Jun 2016 #51

I know this may not matter to you librarylu Jun 2016 #59

Gee, that smells like ... Aerows Jun 2016 #61

They had no grounds to keep him on the list at the time. librarylu Jun 2016 #63

As a matter of fact, I am a speed reader. Aerows Jun 2016 #65

You didn't answer the question. librarylu Jun 2016 #67

You didn't ask a question. Aerows Jun 2016 #68

This is the question I asked: librarylu Jun 2016 #69

Do you work for the FBI? Aerows Jun 2016 #70

You still didn't answer the question. librarylu Jun 2016 #72

Nor will I. Aerows Jun 2016 #73

As you wish. librarylu Jun 2016 #75

Wonder how US security orgs will pooh-pooh that? They fucked up... countryjake Jun 2016 #5

Was it inept to not follow up librarylu Jun 2016 #15

Failures Aerows Jun 2016 #45

A gun store so rattled by a customer they refuse to sell anything...damn straight! countryjake Jun 2016 #77

If the store had gotten a name, librarylu Jun 2016 #78

I've not heard a thing about Mateen's current wife vanishing & I have a tv ... countryjake Jun 2016 #80

Apparently the Sun Sentinel reported she vanished. librarylu Jun 2016 #92

The family is complicit and DUers have been falling for their bullshit due to anti-gay bias. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #6

Reading posts like that, I wanted to ask, "Ever had the FBI at your door?" countryjake Jun 2016 #8

or trying to defend the indefensible. MariaThinks Jun 2016 #10

More like throwing gays under bus to appear Islamic tolerant FLPanhandle Jun 2016 #12

It's sick to judge librarylu Jun 2016 #18

I see it as throwing Gays under the bus to deflect from the fact the Guy was first and foremost a King_David Jun 2016 #23

Islamic fundamentalist terrorist. Aerows Jun 2016 #30

Agree King_David Jun 2016 #31

It's horrific. Aerows Jun 2016 #33

Sounds more like librarylu Jun 2016 #53

Yep King_David Jun 2016 #22

Bingo. Aerows Jun 2016 #32

.that^ 840high Jun 2016 #36

Nonsense librarylu Jun 2016 #16

There is evidence that he was disturbed. There is also evidence cali Jun 2016 #19

There was an early report librarylu Jun 2016 #21

You present his father as some sterling source of information but he was posting anti gay material Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #24

Source? librarylu Jun 2016 #29

You serious? 'Can we blame her'.? King_David Jun 2016 #37

I said I, not we. librarylu Jun 2016 #42

Whatever type of PR you are attempting to do in this thread Aerows Jun 2016 #71

My dad was a reporter early in his career. librarylu Jun 2016 #74

49 murders. Lynching is murder. Execution without authority. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #84

No, I'm not. librarylu Jun 2016 #93

I said to another brother, perhaps we are just being ungrateful. Behind the Aegis Jun 2016 #97

The man you tout said this on Monday morning with 49 funerals being planned: Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #83

I know what he said. librarylu Jun 2016 #87

You and you alone introduced Mateen's bigoted father into this thread and touted him: Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #109

I said no such thing. librarylu Jun 2016 #112

He was a very disturbed child - hands "on other children" womanofthehills Jun 2016 #91

I wonder if therapy instead of discipline librarylu Jun 2016 #95

Right there with you. Aerows Jun 2016 #28

... countryjake Jun 2016 #43

Of course the family was complicit. Aerows Jun 2016 #47

+10000 Blue. Big hugs to you and the rest of the LGBT community riderinthestorm Jun 2016 #54

Heterosexism (aka straight privilege) and homophobia often go hand in had. Behind the Aegis Jun 2016 #64

Wife #1 said he was a batterer/control freak. Dollars to holes in donuts, wife #2 ... Hekate Jun 2016 #17

This mass murderer is unusal in that his father posted hateful crap about the minority his son Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #26

It's the Islamic ideology that caused the massacre whether the killer was gay or not Fumesucker Jun 2016 #40

This is wingerishly bigoted, nothing about Islam caused the massacre... nothing uponit7771 Jun 2016 #49

Tell it to someone who wouldn't be under a death sentence in some Islamic nations Fumesucker Jun 2016 #55

same for some christian nations ... bigotry of all kinds suck uponit7771 Jun 2016 #58

All in all I'd rather be in Philadelphia Fumesucker Jun 2016 #60

religion is often used as an excuse for murder and many other horrible things JI7 Jun 2016 #56

And yet neither you nor the others pitching defense for the family address the father's horrifying Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #81

I also don't live on tv, I have work to do so I didn't see his fathers stupid statements... I've... uponit7771 Jun 2016 #89

You don't want to discuss because you are here to cast bait. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #110

And nothing about Christianity kills abortionists TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2016 #94

+1, the Islamophobia is a stench right now uponit7771 Jun 2016 #103

I think you might not agree with my point of view TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2016 #113

Then why single out Islam and not homogenize the statement? ALL religions have swaths uponit7771 Jun 2016 #117

The term "radical Islam" TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2016 #120

"nothing about Islam caused the massacre" oberliner Jun 2016 #101

Cause I'm not a bigot uponit7771 Jun 2016 #102

What do you mean by that? oberliner Jun 2016 #105

Yes, mostly bigots and ignorant people assert the opposite uponit7771 Jun 2016 #106

What about the middle ground? oberliner Jun 2016 #108

There's no middle ground in bigotry, its not progressive at all. The "middle ground" here is the... uponit7771 Jun 2016 #119

OK oberliner Jun 2016 #121

What about the two pilgrims to the Middle East forthemiddle Jun 2016 #57

I don't care what bigots and racist make up to justify their bigotry, nothing about Islam cause the uponit7771 Jun 2016 #100

At least 7 countries execute LGBT, they are all Islamic countries and they say they kill us because Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #111

So does Christianity in its perverted forms, no need to single out Islam. and thanks uponit7771 Jun 2016 #118

Yes, a wife beater. librarylu Jun 2016 #115

Sounds like he was getting ready to say goodbye to life. Rex Jun 2016 #27

The reason he was scouting Disney mnhtnbb Jun 2016 #35

Or, ensuring that the family's finances couldn't be affected after his attack ... countryjake Jun 2016 #38

so he could continue killing longer and more people JI7 Jun 2016 #44

With a power-crazed ego like that, maybe he thought he'd get away... countryjake Jun 2016 #52

Yes, long term plan Liberal_in_LA Jun 2016 #39

the entire family is fucked up , the son will grow up to learn his parents i did not love him JI7 Jun 2016 #41

The father is a piece of work, the wife I don't know... sounds like she didn't know shit the way the uponit7771 Jun 2016 #48

People are looking for a boogyman and going after the wife based off LEO leaks. I don't take them uponit7771 Jun 2016 #46

Mateen murdered 49 people, there is no 'looking for a boogyman' in that, he was a monster and Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #86

I'm talking about his wife, blaming her for his actions and trying to peg her with anything in ... uponit7771 Jun 2016 #88

He killed 49 people. You attack me personally. Interesting choice. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #107

This is getting weirder and weirder. Initech Jun 2016 #62

Almost sounds like a more violent version of the Westboro Baptist church. gordianot Jun 2016 #66

Quitclaim deeds don't specify the actual amount of money that changes hands. pnwmom Jun 2016 #79

Excellent point. Justice Jun 2016 #82

Right. For example, maybe he was having money issues -- which could pnwmom Jun 2016 #90

Kick sarcasmo Jun 2016 #96

Deed was prepared by an estate attorney as well. He still has his condo, though. flvegan Jun 2016 #98

Please read librarylu Jun 2016 #99

Could be simple LynnTTT Jun 2016 #104

Sure had lots of real estate for a randomly employed 'security guard'. Owned homes, took regular Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #114

Fuck the Daily Mail. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #116

I watched Jamie Lee Curtis movies for weeks... leeroysphitz Jun 2016 #122