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32. Right

Mon Jun 20, 2016, 08:14 PM

Jun 2016

They got a tip that it could be a drug house, you certainly can not get a warrant for a home on a anonymous tip you have to investigate.

This guy did not have to stop any more than the guy with the AK does, he could have kept walking and he did not have to show ID.

He stopped, and gave up his DL. You do not have to identify your self no more than that man who looks to have intent has to stop heading for that school. Cops use these tactics every single day and while there are certainly plenty of cases of abuse, they do stop alot of crime this way. I want that cop stopping people that he has reasonable suspicion of criminal activity, again ... sounds like this guy had pretty good legal representation. If there is a guy in a ski mask hiding in the alley next to the all night coffee house I want the police to go ask him what the hell he is doing, and if he has a warrant drag him in, and during that process if he has an illegal weapon on him charge him. Might have just stopped a rape.

If they investigated and found there was no tip ... let him go as there was no reason to watch the house. If he had hassled other people about this same place and come up empty ... let him go. But seems to me he was doing his job, and if it was anything other than drugs most would agree.

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