"Conservatives" are traitors.

[Cary]

167. Oh please

Her philosophy was "limited government" and she had this cockamamie idea of "force" and all of that crap. She is on record as saying that whenever you try to help someone you end up hurting them. Hers was a glorification of the absolute worst of human qualities.

And too she was a radical capitalist, borrowing from the Austrians. Interestingly Maury Rothbard, the anarcho-capitalist, despised her. The radical capitalists whom you might refer to as libertarian were not monolithic by any means. However I am not going to just bend over and take their sanctimonious, self-serving rhetoric at face value. At the end of the day it's a steaming pile of crap, like any overly simplistic paint by the number ideology.

At the end of the day it isn't about ideology. It's about what works and what doesn't work and you have to take on a case by case basis. Social Security works, close book, end of story. It doesn't matter that it's "socialist" or anything else. Before Social Security 75% of the elderly lived in poverty. The fact that we eliminated that poverty hurts the elderly?

Rand got that one so wrong that she ended up dependent on Social Security herself. Pfeh.

We have thousands of examples. I, myself, am the product of some excellent public schools. The Federal Land Grant schools, like my alma mater, have returned to our nation many many times over. Or how about the national highway system? We can go on and on. Greed is not always bad but it's not always good and sometimes greed is very, very bad.

And right now the "conservatives'" greed is very, very bad. I don't see the distinction between Rand and any of the other variants of this particular thought virus.