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In reply to the discussion: Don't call it an assault weapon. [View all]Straw Man
(6,942 posts)66. Actually, not so much.
You can use an AR15 as an assault weapon. Ergonomics plays a major role in how fast a
Person can fire rounds.
Person can fire rounds.
Are you referring to pistol grips? They may have a marginal effect on rate of fire, but they have more to do with accuracy and controllability. That's why Olympic rifle competitors like them.

The US Army toyed with the idea in the late '80s with doing away with the full-auto feature on the M-16, but instead they just changed front handgrips and added 3 round burst and renamed it M-16 A2.
Toyed with and then abandoned the idea. You need more than semi-auto capability for suppressive fire.
The reason the military wanted to do away with full-auto was due to the number of rounds being wasted and declining accuracy the longer a soldier pulled the trigger.
In other words, there was an economic motive. This was the same reason the military stuck with Springfield muskets and Sharps carbines long past the point at which they should have adopted repeating lever-action rifles. The theory was that if soldiers were armed with repeaters, they would waste too much ammo. A self-fulfilling prophesy: soldiers waste even less ammo when they're dead.
Accuracy is not really relevant to suppressive fire. The era of semi-auto battle rifles is over.
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Recognize? Probably not. But MSM/Controllers can't do it days later in the bright of day...
Eleanors38
Jun 2016
#19
That would be a defacto ban on 99.9% of semiautomatic pistols. As such, it would be unconstitional.
Just reading posts
Jun 2016
#79
Fuck conciliatory. I've had 30 years of being conciliatory with these assholes
CanonRay
Jun 2016
#102
There it is indeed, Jerry. Virtually every discussion here, and in the agitprop of banner groups...
Eleanors38
Jun 2016
#90
Fine, restrict hell out of both and anyone who tries to buy one, the ultimate catch-22 for gunners.
Hoyt
Jun 2016
#15
You can take a wooden-stocked mini-14, change the stock to a pistol gripped folding stock..
X_Digger
Jun 2016
#36
It's frustrating. Ignorance leads to bad bills, which leads to Democrats losing elctions.
Brickbat
Jun 2016
#38
Always entertaining to pin down Gun Enthusiasts as to the Nazi origins of the terminology. (nt)
Paladin
Jun 2016
#8
Assault Rifles are capable of FULL-AUTO fire; the bowlderlized assault weapon is not.
Eleanors38
Jun 2016
#17
You can use an AR15 as an assault weapon. Ergonomics plays a major role in how fast a
Exilednight
Jun 2016
#43
"I guess it's a real pisser that we can't strut around with UZI's" Actually you can...
EX500rider
Jun 2016
#106
Interesting. The BAR was headed that way, but too big and heavy to be practical. NT
Adrahil
Jun 2016
#83
The BAR was an excellent light machine gun by WW1 standards, but it cane out too late
Just reading posts
Jun 2016
#93
I'm just pointing out that in WW2 there were LMGs that were arguably better.
Just reading posts
Jun 2016
#113
Of course...that was what was available. But the Bren Gun and MG42 (just to name a couple) were
Just reading posts
Jun 2016
#114
As long as you can describe it in legislation, they may be called whatever you like.
jmg257
Jun 2016
#39
And what about the (roughly) 200 million semautomatic weapons already in circulation,
Just reading posts
Jun 2016
#81
If you only destroy the tiny fraction of the billions of magazines used in crimes, they'll be here
Just reading posts
Jun 2016
#115