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16. When everything is white violence against people of color

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Tue Jun 21, 2016, 01:58 PM

Jun 2016

then nothing is white violence against people of color.

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Black Lives Matter -- white supremacy, patriarchy and homophobia causes of Orlando attack. NOT Islam [View all] philosslayer Jun 2016 OP

The gyrations some go through is astounding. nt B2G Jun 2016 #1

Reality check FrodosPet Jun 2016 #18

without comment Angel Martin Jun 2016 #61

Unbelievable story telling. MariaThinks Jun 2016 #86

Nothing like inventing your own reality, I guess. Press Virginia Jun 2016 #2

This article makes no sense metroins Jun 2016 #3

...!100++++ 840high Jun 2016 #36

#BLM tried to steal the spotlight at the vigil? SMC22307 Jun 2016 #152

BLM just needs to be scuttled Yukari Yakumo Jun 2016 #173

It's not either/or. It almost never is. cali Jun 2016 #4

Honestly. Else You Are Mad Jun 2016 #5

What is race based and bigotted loyalsister Jun 2016 #25

No. Else You Are Mad Jun 2016 #35

You have zero proof of what you speak with great certainty. You heap all the blame on a sexuality Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #37

I can't really follow your post... Else You Are Mad Jun 2016 #40

Why did he hate himself? His religion. /nt Marr Jun 2016 #62

Not necessarily...Homophobia could be cultural and then just codified into the religion. whathehell Jun 2016 #128

Homophobia could be cultural .... AlbertCat Jun 2016 #175

Or the religion of its culture.. whathehell Jun 2016 #184

it's a chicken or egg question AlbertCat Jun 2016 #189

Lol.. whathehell Jun 2016 #192

Russia is largely atheistic AlbertCat Jun 2016 #176

Um, yeah, really. whathehell Jun 2016 #182

On your last paragraph you seem to be agreeing with me AlbertCat Jun 2016 #188

You might want to 're-read my last post whathehell Jun 2016 #193

Scapegoating mental illness and ignoring outwardly targeted homophobia is self serving loyalsister Jun 2016 #46

So, in that case, we are in agreement. Else You Are Mad Jun 2016 #47

Well... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #102

Absolute horseloaf. nt Dreamer Tatum Jun 2016 #6

Good article, thank you. uppityperson Jun 2016 #7

This shit dishonors the dead Prism Jun 2016 #8

"born from the anti-Black white supremacy" Dreamer Tatum Jun 2016 #9

+1 Behind the Aegis Jun 2016 #10

Usually one buries the dead Prism Jun 2016 #12

PC before people. Ace Rothstein Jun 2016 #24

I consider it throwing Gays under the bus. nt King_David Jun 2016 #68

Driving over us afterwards Aerows Jun 2016 #121

And even when you tell them , they continue. nt King_David Jun 2016 #123

Beautiful article MrScorpio Jun 2016 #11

Horrifically abusive anti gay load of horsehit. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #38

Well, apparently opinions differ. MrScorpio Jun 2016 #52

I'm gay, you are straight. You dig this horrificaly bigoted bullshit and I'm not in the least Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #57

I'm also a person of color, as were most of the victims of that massacre MrScorpio Jun 2016 #67

So much factually wrong in your post. First of all, Mateen was not Pakistani cali Jun 2016 #76

You're right about his heritage, mea culpa MrScorpio Jun 2016 #80

If I may, I believe the "murdering mostly LGBT people of color" was not the intent... Raster Jun 2016 #107

Rather than looking at murder of black and brown LGBT as a coincidence MrScorpio Jun 2016 #141

He also spared some black victims Prism Jun 2016 #92

He was a "Brown" person? whathehell Jun 2016 #130

I know and agree. I'm simply following- or trying to- the op's logic. cali Jun 2016 #131

Got it. n/t whathehell Jun 2016 #135

+1, and that fear mongering has been normalized to the point some "progressives" become bigoted uponit7771 Jun 2016 #154

Oh, there are bigots all right Prism Jun 2016 #157

+1 King_David Jun 2016 #70

+1 King_David Jun 2016 #69

whatever supports your preconceived notions... snooper2 Jun 2016 #13

Wow. What a load of BS FLPanhandle Jun 2016 #14

yes we all know how islam embraces, welcomes, honors and celebrates lgbt people nt msongs Jun 2016 #15

When everything is white violence against people of color XemaSab Jun 2016 #16

Except when white violence is tolerated and minimized by society as a whole. Very few folk call uponit7771 Jun 2016 #153

Kind of like how WWII was really about the FDA mandating childhood vaccinations Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #17

That's really quite sickening. pintobean Jun 2016 #19

Is the author from an alternate universe? Matrosov Jun 2016 #20

wanted to use Orlando to draw attention to Black Lives Matter AlbertCat Jun 2016 #178

What a bunch of horse shit melman Jun 2016 #21

This is a great way for BLM to lose support from most people including me. DesMoinesDem Jun 2016 #22

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #28

Very well stated RobertEarl Jun 2016 #23

I believe you are misguided. Dreamer Tatum Jun 2016 #27

White supremacy is the mortar that has always bound the masonry of America together MrScorpio Jun 2016 #29

what does that even mean? What is the "masonry" of America, for example? cali Jun 2016 #71

This isn't a completion, of course. MrScorpio Jun 2016 #77

thanks for the non-answer. cali Jun 2016 #79

What I meant about "masonry" is that white supremacy built this country MrScorpio Jun 2016 #82

It's that simple malaise Jun 2016 #103

It's very far from being that simple. n/t Aerows Jun 2016 #125

Thank you! philosslayer Jun 2016 #30

OP hit whites hard RobertEarl Jun 2016 #33

The OP protects Straights and their Ritualized bigotries they call 'religion' at the expense of the Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #44

Uhhh Else You Are Mad Jun 2016 #50

This OP is cheering for anti gay semitments as are many on this thread, straights in denial Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #56

You are wrong. Else You Are Mad Jun 2016 #58

The OP is celebrating this anti gay view, do you undestand what you are reading here? Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #59

Disagreement is not bullying. Else You Are Mad Jun 2016 #63

They happy to throw Gays under the bus King_David Jun 2016 #78

Good point loyalsister Jun 2016 #32

The culture almost demands it RobertEarl Jun 2016 #34

Yep loyalsister Jun 2016 #108

Do enlighten those of us in the LGBT community Aerows Jun 2016 #124

This literally has nothing to do with the subject at hand... TipTok Jun 2016 #161

Yeah, I forgot, Newtown Elementary was an all minority school in the inner city. ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #48

Right? What utter horseshit... truebrit71 Jun 2016 #73

Charleston terrorist attack was a white supremacist and a devout Christian but few if any on uponit7771 Jun 2016 #145

"True: if this was 49 KKK members we'd have 50 gun laws RIGHT NOW" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #146

Out of touch with this countries tolerance for white supremacy? REALLY?! Not after being stopped 23 uponit7771 Jun 2016 #149

If a KKK rally had been shot up, no one would give a fuck!!!! ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #156

This statement isn't even close to reality relative to the protection white males have gotten from uponit7771 Jun 2016 #158

Religion sucks across the board ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #160

Great, then why the singling out of Islam !?!? And strawman noted, no one said KKK respresents uponit7771 Jun 2016 #162

Why the singling out of Islam? Because it is the religion that mandates punishing gays Albertoo Jun 2016 #164

Link and quote? tia uponit7771 Jun 2016 #166

What is your real question? Albertoo Jun 2016 #171

Here's why we single out Islam Prism Jun 2016 #167

... and Christianity doesn't?! uponit7771 Jun 2016 #168

Was the shooter Christian? Prism Jun 2016 #169

Answer my question first. tia uponit7771 Jun 2016 #170

Your question is a nonsequitur by design Prism Jun 2016 #172

The victims were mainly LGBTQ King_David Jun 2016 #74

Yes they were LGBT RobertEarl Jun 2016 #140

Oh, there IS some denial going on. I'll give you that. n/t Aerows Jun 2016 #126

++++++++++++++DING DING DING !! Thread winnah+++++++++++++++++++++ uponit7771 Jun 2016 #142

Not sure if serious or just joking. Ace Rothstein Jun 2016 #26

I'd suggest this is delusional Abq_Sarah Jun 2016 #31

Recommended. On target. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #39

A reminder melman Jun 2016 #41

Well, that's all been "redacted" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #43

+1 There are none so ignorant as those who refuse to see what's directly in front of their face friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #65

Oh, I think they see. They just don't really give a shit. Marr Jun 2016 #177

I'm sick of the towers of anti gay bullshit being contructed on DU. The LGBT community are the Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #42

+1 King_David Jun 2016 #81

Exactly!! Behind the Aegis Jun 2016 #94

Just imagine if this was reversed Prism Jun 2016 #97

The most interesting part is how we are being accused of being racists. Behind the Aegis Jun 2016 #99

It's been that way as long as I've been politically active Prism Jun 2016 #100

I am not surprised either. Behind the Aegis Jun 2016 #101

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jun 2016 #45

A gender neutral descriptor Prism Jun 2016 #51

cornfusing at times DustyJoe Jun 2016 #53

Gender neutral pronoun ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #55

The guy pledged allegiance to an Islamic terror group. iandhr Jun 2016 #49

...then pledged allegience to the antithesis of that same group. The fact that people ignore that uponit7771 Jun 2016 #150

"Pledged allegiance to the antithesis of that same group" Aerows Jun 2016 #165

BLM is becoming a joke. Marr Jun 2016 #54

Concur MosheFeingold Jun 2016 #60

Mateen did this because (redacted) and he got the idea from (redacted). Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #64

LOL TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2016 #113

I think the disconnect here is this is reads like the conclusion of a philosophy piece ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #66

Thank you. mwrguy Jun 2016 #115

It was quite obvious to me as it was written, it's laid out as you've pointed out for all to see MrScorpio Jun 2016 #183

BLM hasn't been in the news for a long while... romanic Jun 2016 #72

White supremacy is the cause of the Orlando attack? oberliner Jun 2016 #75

Don't ya know? Its "Anti-blackness" that caused it, that causes everything... jmg257 Jun 2016 #83

It almost reads like a parody of itself oberliner Jun 2016 #84

This is the culture of perpetual victimhood... TipTok Jun 2016 #163

Lol. This is ridiculous. Islam truly is the left's sacred cow. Oneironaut Jun 2016 #85

American Muslims Send A Powerful Message Of Solidarity To Orlando Victims MrScorpio Jun 2016 #87

Which has jack squat to do with the OP. nt B2G Jun 2016 #89

Great, but Islam at its core is a backwards, bigoted religion. Oneironaut Jun 2016 #90

You might not know this, but most Muslims in this country vote Democratic MrScorpio Jun 2016 #91

Thanks for posting this philosslayer Jun 2016 #95

I live in Southeast Michigan, which is the home to the largest Muslim-American population in the USA MrScorpio Jun 2016 #96

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jun 2016 #111

for some reason, they're painted with an unfair amount of Islamophobia. AlbertCat Jun 2016 #180

Criticizing Islam is not Islamophobic. Oneironaut Jun 2016 #129

That's exactly my point - they're moderate Muslims. Most are. Oneironaut Jun 2016 #127

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jun 2016 #132

There kind of is one central Christian theology REP Jun 2016 #134

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jun 2016 #136

We agree REP Jun 2016 #138

Most American Muslims aren't radicalized, we know that. romanic Jun 2016 #109

Well frankly, I think that it's ridiculous that some expect US Muslims to answer for overseas ones MrScorpio Jun 2016 #185

He also stated he didn't want to kill blacks B2G Jun 2016 #88

... and Christianity seems to be the sacred cow of white supremacist. Had there been 49 KKK members uponit7771 Jun 2016 #143

Are there ANY hadiths or verses of the Quran that could be interpreted to condemn homosexuality? trotsky Jun 2016 #93

I can't help but notice the silence to your post. I wonder why? nt LostOne4Ever Jun 2016 #112

Well here are a collection of them. Aerows Jun 2016 #118

Thanks malaise Jun 2016 #98

#PulseShooting: Gunman Reportedly Didn�t Want to Kill Black People: �You Guys Suffered Enough� oberliner Jun 2016 #104

So he was fighting white supremacy by killing gays. Dr. Strange Jun 2016 #105

Very interesting find. bravenak Jun 2016 #106

I'm familar with the basic argument. David__77 Jun 2016 #110

I'll trust Mateen on this over BLM. He was quite clear about what his reasons were. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2016 #114

When somebody tells me who they are, I believe them. Aerows Jun 2016 #119

You know who they are but not why they are. kwassa Jun 2016 #139

they forgot Christianity...LOL ileus Jun 2016 #116

K&R mwrguy Jun 2016 #117

This was an attack on the LGBT community. Period! And yes his religion was a factor. hrmjustin Jun 2016 #120

+1 Quackers Jun 2016 #137

UN-rec. Using the death of LGBTQ people to fuel your own person agenda is disgusting! nt LostOne4Ever Jun 2016 #122

What the fuck did I just read? X_Digger Jun 2016 #133

Wow...what a steaming pile of garbage... tritsofme Jun 2016 #144

So I bought one of those puzzles, you know... the kind with like, a thousand pieces? cherokeeprogressive Jun 2016 #147

This is the best comment ever Prism Jun 2016 #148

I knew in my heart even before I saw there WAS a link... that clicking the link would lead to cherokeeprogressive Jun 2016 #151

Is this from the Onion? Albertoo Jun 2016 #155

Someone is worried that they are falling out of the spotlight... TipTok Jun 2016 #159

Lots of enraged Islamophobes in this thread. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #174

And now at least one binary thinker.nt Dreamer Tatum Jun 2016 #179

Pissed off gay people = enraged Islamaphobes Prism Jun 2016 #181

There are plenty of Christians who are just as homophobic as many Muslims. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #186

You let me know when Christian assholes shoot up 49 in a gay club Prism Jun 2016 #187

You don't think some Dominionist asshole could do something like this? Odin2005 Jun 2016 #190

They could, but in this case it was a Shariaist asshole. The OP denies this inconvenient truth friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #191

They absolutely could Prism Jun 2016 #196

The problem isn't pointing out problematic cultural aspects of the Islamic world Odin2005 Jun 2016 #197

Which interpretation kills people Prism Jun 2016 #198

The shooter's 911 call is "Neocon propaganda"? Democat Jun 2016 #194

He called out 3 different Islamist organizations that hate each other. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #195