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27. Way the system works

Reply to Person 2713 (Reply #25)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 08:07 AM

Jun 2016

State laws over rule local laws and federal laws over rule state laws. What would you want to change about the system?

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Fucking Horrible. Fucking Typical. Nothing to see here. [View all] cali Jun 2016 OP

In case you don't get it, fracking is very lightly regulated cali Jun 2016 #1

Good point. Bad law signed by George W. Bush. Not a judge being bad. NT Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #2

actually, it's a judge exercising bad judgment as well. It is NOT either/or cali Jun 2016 #3

Are you basing that claim against the judge on the text and legislative history of the statute? merrily Jun 2016 #5

I know that other judges in other cases have interpreted the 2005 Energy legislation cali Jun 2016 #6

On this same point? Nothing in the OP story suggests the judge ignored precedent. merrily Jun 2016 #8

I don't know about this exact point. And it's true that most successful cali Jun 2016 #9

There have been tons of cases where federal agencies prevail, but they may have nothing to do with merrily Jun 2016 #13

The Judge is ruling in accordance with the 2005 law but cali Jun 2016 #14

Big no. The only regulatory authority admin. agencies have is what Congress gives them by statute. merrily Jun 2016 #15

I stand corrected then. The Halliburton/Cheney Loophole really does protect cali Jun 2016 #19

I am not clear what you mean by "Obama lawyers." merrily Jun 2016 #22

Nice summary, and absolutely correct. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #28

Thank you. merrily Jun 2016 #35

Whoa, that's backwards jberryhill Jun 2016 #38

Better watch it with remarks like that RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 #20

That law passed 74-26 in the Senate and Barack Obama voted for it. Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #21

So that's what Cheney was up to in his secret Energy Task Force bucolic_frolic Jun 2016 #7

Dr. Phil: People with nothing to hide, hide nothing. merrily Jun 2016 #11

If Congress actually did expressly forbid regulation by the agency, as the lawsuit claimed, the merrily Jun 2016 #4

Fracking is unfortunately tied to renewables. joshcryer Jun 2016 #10

Maybe, but that is not really relevant to whether the judge's reading of the statute is correct. merrily Jun 2016 #12

The judge is correct. joshcryer Jun 2016 #16

On the judge, please see Reply 4 and my other posts upthread. merrily Jun 2016 #18

That makes no sense fasttense Jun 2016 #17

I think josh may have been making "a funny." merrily Jun 2016 #23

When Denton Texas passes it's first local ordinance against fracking, Loki Jun 2016 #24

That's one way to get around a local ordinance and let folks know who is really in charge Person 2713 Jun 2016 #25

Way the system works 1939 Jun 2016 #27

. Did you read the link in the post I was replying to ? If that is how you like the system to work Person 2713 Jun 2016 #31

I read the link 1939 Jun 2016 #39

Colorado has the strongest regulations in the nation mountain grammy Jun 2016 #26

Congress could have repealed the Cheney loophole with no risk of veto at any time merrily Jun 2016 #30

Yes, you're correct, and they should have.. mountain grammy Jun 2016 #33

Except...would Pres. Obama have vetoed repeal of a bill for which Senator Obama had voted? merrily Jun 2016 #34

Yeah, that would've been a dilemma. mountain grammy Jun 2016 #36

First, I may be a cynic, but I don't merrily Jun 2016 #37

Why say "Obama-appointed judge", you're giving the impression that the reason Obama... George II Jun 2016 #29

In the context of this case, your comment makes no sense at all. merrily Jun 2016 #32

Because that's what the article said. Your post is, forgive me, paranoid cali Jun 2016 #40