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Igel

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18. The 'net says otherwise for fees and initial opening balance.
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 10:07 AM
Jun 2016

There's a pitifully small opening balance requirement, and the most basic account is free (and has no interest). You don't have to keep the minimum in the bank.

It's the overdraft protection that's a killer. You pay for authorization to be overdrawn, and if you're overdrawn it's spendy--not payday-loan interest rates, but still more than you'd want to pay.

If you overdraw without protection, exceed the agreed-upon and paid-for overdraft protection amount or the number of days you can be overdrawn, your account's subject to being frozen and you may be blacklisted. Not just by the BP, but other banks. The BP doesn't receive government money. It's mostly self-financing, as it's set up, but it would require a lot of rethinking the US postal system.

Given the way things are in the US, I'd imagine a fair number of families below the poverty line would have rather large overdraft protection fees and tend to use the overdraft protection a lot. If interest on overdrafts is 14% and the fees are another few percent (even if the service isn't used) that can quickly start approaching payday-loan levels and that would suddenly become not much better than what we have in the US now.

If we dispose of the overdraft charges, then it's another government subsidy, with the government making what amounts to low-interest loans to the poor for indefinite time periods. I doubt such a topic would form part of the publicly managed debate on setting up something like the BP in the US. Now, we could have that discussion, but I'd also want to have a third point brought up, something that would almost certainly become an evergreen issue in election years: "Vote for me, and there'll be an past-due loan amnesty." The response would be, "It would never happen," but it would. Then it would become a big moral thing--do we forgive the loans and be good atheists/Xians or be nasty, mean-spirited conservatives? A fourth point would also have to be, "If you declare bankruptcy are federally-backed postal overdrafts included?"

Something else to keep in mind is that bank fees in France are larger than the bank fees here. My checking and savings accounts are free. I'd be paying $300+ for the same services in France. It's likely that in the US the postal bank would receive really stiff competition from private banks--the BP does in France with the high fees. BP does well because it handles the poor but also it handles small bergs that otherwise wouldn't have a bank. It's likely the US version would wind up with a very large overdraft balance very quickly, requiring either government subsidy or higher fees.

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interestingly enough drray23 Jun 2016 #1
The 'net says otherwise for fees and initial opening balance. Igel Jun 2016 #18
I like the idea of letting the Post Office offer some basic banking services. TDale313 Jun 2016 #2
yup TeamPooka Jun 2016 #25
Like Bernie's Post Office proposal. Schema Thing Jun 2016 #3
YES YES YES SoLeftIAmRight Jun 2016 #13
Yes, bring back our postal savings system. TransitJohn Jun 2016 #17
Wow.. I had no idea that there HAD been such a thing.. annabanana Jun 2016 #23
I like the direction. Cassiopeia Jun 2016 #4
Is this the along the lines of using Post Offices for banking services? villager Jun 2016 #5
It is a good idea. Another one is to use post offices as banks similar to your idea upaloopa Jun 2016 #6
That could also work. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #8
My brother is a Catholic priest. He was in charge of Catholic Charities years ago. upaloopa Jun 2016 #9
Big business would nip your idea in the bud so fast. Laffy Kat Jun 2016 #7
The Post Office used to offer banking services. rickford66 Jun 2016 #10
Will fingerprinting still be required to open an account? FrodosPet Jun 2016 #12
I think many people will if it allows them to set one up yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #16
Britain has this. Hoppy Jun 2016 #11
Many of the people I know Sgent Jun 2016 #14
Good point. 840high Jun 2016 #15
So, sort of a public option? Iggo Jun 2016 #19
Yes. That's one way of putting it. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #21
Check cashing at walmart is $3. People aren't getting payday loans DesMoinesDem Jun 2016 #20
That's WalMart. There are lots of places in the cities Ken Burch Jun 2016 #22
You don't even need the Feds- you could establish a community credit union that does that Lee-Lee Jun 2016 #24
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