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metroins

(2,550 posts)
8. Low Hanging Fruit
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 02:27 PM
Jun 2016

These gun debates are ridiculous. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States

Gun violence in the United States results in thousands of deaths and injuries annually.[1] According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, in 2013, firearms were used in 84,258 nonfatal injuries (26.65 per 100,000 U.S. citizens) [2] and 11,208 deaths by homicide (3.5 per 100,000),[3] 21,175 by suicide with a firearm,[4] 505 deaths due to accidental discharge of a firearm,[4] and 281 deaths due to firearms-use with "undetermined intent"[5] for a total of 33,169 deaths related to firearms (excluding firearm deaths due to legal intervention). 1.3% of all deaths in the country were related to firearms.[1][6]


33,000 gun deaths, 2/3rds are suicide, 1/3rd are homicide. Congress decides to ignore our suicide epidemic and go after the homicide...OK that's fine.

According to the FBI, in 2012, there were 8,897 total firearm-related homicides in the US, with 6,404 of those attributed to handguns.[8]


70% of firearm-homicides are by handguns...Congress decides to ignore that as well....

I'm not going to finish this post because it would take too much time, but handguns and suicides just aren't sexy. If you go after suicide, you have to talk about mental health and that's scary, if you go after handguns then you have to discuss gang violence or domestic violence and those are huge problems to fix.

So Congress decides to focus on the less than 1% of gun deaths because it's low hanging fruit and easy to tackle.

Terrorists are bad, "assault weapons" are scary, Americans are dumb.


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How do we know the AWB was a failure? NobodyHere Jun 2016 #1
Can you point to anything in the AWB anoNY42 Jun 2016 #5
The increase when the ban was overturned was in mass murder Warpy Jun 2016 #12
"Those things" never left the gun stores or streets during the 1990's NickB79 Jun 2016 #17
This makes no sense anoNY42 Jun 2016 #18
Adam Lanza's rifle was legal to buy during the first AWB hack89 Jun 2016 #33
hand guns and knives weren't addressed by the AWB Press Virginia Jun 2016 #6
Most people involved think it was a failure TeddyR Jun 2016 #9
Failure, maybe, because it didn't go far enough or long enough. That can be corrected. Hoyt Jun 2016 #14
Perhaps TeddyR Jun 2016 #15
Good idea. Why not move against both semi-auto handguns and rifles? leveymg Jun 2016 #2
Furthermore, anoNY42 Jun 2016 #3
One step at a time, semi-auto pistols next. An AWB will force many gun stores/shows to shut down Hoyt Jun 2016 #4
Would love to read more: bighart Jun 2016 #29
Handgun ownership is Constitutionally protected, as per the Heller decision. Just reading posts Jun 2016 #7
Low Hanging Fruit metroins Jun 2016 #8
That's what it feels like. What will score us a political win, not what will help us save lives...nt MadDAsHell Jun 2016 #10
That certainly seems to be the driver bighart Jun 2016 #30
Gun deaths were greatly reduced from 1994 until now... scscholar Jun 2016 #11
Except everyone who actually TeddyR Jun 2016 #16
Can you clarify the data source that backs up that claim? nt MadDAsHell Jun 2016 #21
Adam Lanza's rifle was legal under the first AWB hack89 Jun 2016 #34
Crime bill with mass incarceration - woo hoo. jmg257 Jun 2016 #39
Emotion... ileus Jun 2016 #13
I would like to know which of these homicides B2G Jun 2016 #19
I think most non-mass shooting murders (the vast majority of gun deaths) are illegal guns... MadDAsHell Jun 2016 #35
So if the vast majority of gun deaths are done with illegally obtained guns B2G Jun 2016 #36
OP is right! We need to ban handguns as well. mwrguy Jun 2016 #20
And yet we're never going to. Just reading posts Jun 2016 #22
That's an easy one: Nevernose Jun 2016 #23
Also not going to happen. Just reading posts Jun 2016 #24
We are all prophets of our own biases, and read the futures which best validate our desires... LanternWaste Jun 2016 #27
My biases (and I certainly have them) aside, I find the prospect of the US Congress outlawing Just reading posts Jun 2016 #37
2nd amendment fundamentalism. pansypoo53219 Jun 2016 #25
You have to create a climate for gun control La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #26
The slippery slope is precisely what Absolutists object to maxsolomon Jun 2016 #31
Why have the ACA when we should have held out for 100% free coverage? Hekate Jun 2016 #28
That's a fair point, but wouldn't the "good" be preventing 80% of deaths, not 20%? MadDAsHell Jun 2016 #32
For similar reasons to why the mentally ill are targeted for greater and greater surveillance HereSince1628 Jun 2016 #38
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