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TeddyR

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9. Most people involved think it was a failure
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 02:37 PM
Jun 2016

Here's an excerpt from a piece in the Guardian on Monday discussing the AWB:

The loophole-ridden 1994 federal assault weapons ban, which expired in 2004, produced no clear evidence of reducing gun violence. An in-depth evaluation of the law concluded that the impact of even a more comprehensive ban would be “small at best and perhaps too small for reliable measurement”.

That was not a surprise to anyone who had been paying attention. In the early 1990s, even some gun control advocates criticized the push for an assault weapon ban as a “distraction” with little crime-fighting benefit. But the ban generated intense, visceral reactions from the public. A former Democratic staffer who helped craft the assault weapon ban said he had hoped passing it would give Democrats the political momentum they needed to pass the drier, more technical gun laws that might actually save more lives.

Instead, the push for a political victory backfired. President Bill Clinton later blamed the assault weapon ban for the 1994 midterm victories that allowed Republicans to take over both houses of Congress. Many prominent gun control groups have since moved away from an assault ban – “through hard, bitter experience”, said Matt Bennett, a gun policy expert who advised Sandy Hook Promise.

Democrats know the research behind the ban. While a ban on high-capacity magazines could help some, the assault weapons ban “does nothing”, a former senior Obama administration official said last year.

Despite this, the ban has remained a moral litmus test for Democratic politicians.

Obama endorsed the assault weapon ban after Sandy Hook. Behind the scenes, the ban got little political support from the White House in 2013. Instead, the administration focused its energy on expanding background checks. When it came to the assault weapon ban, “We did the bare minimum,” the official said. “We would have pushed a lot harder if we had believed in it.”


Link - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/20/gun-control-orlando-attack-newtown-mass-shooting

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How do we know the AWB was a failure? NobodyHere Jun 2016 #1
Can you point to anything in the AWB anoNY42 Jun 2016 #5
The increase when the ban was overturned was in mass murder Warpy Jun 2016 #12
"Those things" never left the gun stores or streets during the 1990's NickB79 Jun 2016 #17
This makes no sense anoNY42 Jun 2016 #18
Adam Lanza's rifle was legal to buy during the first AWB hack89 Jun 2016 #33
hand guns and knives weren't addressed by the AWB Press Virginia Jun 2016 #6
Most people involved think it was a failure TeddyR Jun 2016 #9
Failure, maybe, because it didn't go far enough or long enough. That can be corrected. Hoyt Jun 2016 #14
Perhaps TeddyR Jun 2016 #15
Good idea. Why not move against both semi-auto handguns and rifles? leveymg Jun 2016 #2
Furthermore, anoNY42 Jun 2016 #3
One step at a time, semi-auto pistols next. An AWB will force many gun stores/shows to shut down Hoyt Jun 2016 #4
Would love to read more: bighart Jun 2016 #29
Handgun ownership is Constitutionally protected, as per the Heller decision. Just reading posts Jun 2016 #7
Low Hanging Fruit metroins Jun 2016 #8
That's what it feels like. What will score us a political win, not what will help us save lives...nt MadDAsHell Jun 2016 #10
That certainly seems to be the driver bighart Jun 2016 #30
Gun deaths were greatly reduced from 1994 until now... scscholar Jun 2016 #11
Except everyone who actually TeddyR Jun 2016 #16
Can you clarify the data source that backs up that claim? nt MadDAsHell Jun 2016 #21
Adam Lanza's rifle was legal under the first AWB hack89 Jun 2016 #34
Crime bill with mass incarceration - woo hoo. jmg257 Jun 2016 #39
Emotion... ileus Jun 2016 #13
I would like to know which of these homicides B2G Jun 2016 #19
I think most non-mass shooting murders (the vast majority of gun deaths) are illegal guns... MadDAsHell Jun 2016 #35
So if the vast majority of gun deaths are done with illegally obtained guns B2G Jun 2016 #36
OP is right! We need to ban handguns as well. mwrguy Jun 2016 #20
And yet we're never going to. Just reading posts Jun 2016 #22
That's an easy one: Nevernose Jun 2016 #23
Also not going to happen. Just reading posts Jun 2016 #24
We are all prophets of our own biases, and read the futures which best validate our desires... LanternWaste Jun 2016 #27
My biases (and I certainly have them) aside, I find the prospect of the US Congress outlawing Just reading posts Jun 2016 #37
2nd amendment fundamentalism. pansypoo53219 Jun 2016 #25
You have to create a climate for gun control La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #26
The slippery slope is precisely what Absolutists object to maxsolomon Jun 2016 #31
Why have the ACA when we should have held out for 100% free coverage? Hekate Jun 2016 #28
That's a fair point, but wouldn't the "good" be preventing 80% of deaths, not 20%? MadDAsHell Jun 2016 #32
For similar reasons to why the mentally ill are targeted for greater and greater surveillance HereSince1628 Jun 2016 #38
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