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coalition_unwilling

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18. I understand your point (I think). The record is mixed on JFK and those who preceded

Reply to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #12)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:06 PM

Jun 2012

him, however. I'm not sure JFK "knew" we could not win. But McNamara did "know" we could not win and still let the war go on. That's pretty reprehensible.

FWIW, Nixon's 'secret plan' to end the Vietnam War was to expand it secretly to Cambodia and Laos without congressional approval. That became part of the proposed articles of impeachment against him, IIRC, although I'm not sure they were approved by the Judiciary Committee. Definitely also reprehensible. Nixon and Kissinger's back channel use of Claire Chennault (to which you initially referred) borders on 'treason' no matter how one defines it.

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