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RiverNoord

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75. You have read the rest of the Constitutional provisions dealing with militias, haven't you?
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 07:51 PM
Jun 2016

There a two other explicit references in the Constitution, one in Article I and another in Article II. Since the Bill of Rights came a short time after the ratification of the Constitution, the Second Amendment must be read in the context of the other references to 'militia.'

The Constitution makes it clear that the purposes of 'the militia' or 'the militias of the several states' are to repel invasions and put down insurrections before regular forces are able to deploy.

Also, have you every heard of 'Shay's Rebellion?' The possibly-first American civil war? Which led directly to the ratification of the Constitution, and had a lot to do with its 'militia' provisions?

The collective nature of the Second Amendment is directly linked to its stated purpose - there aren't any one-person militias.

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based on what? Press Virginia Jun 2016 #23
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What of Breyer's interpretation in Maryland v King? Or, Scalia in Texas v Johnson... Marengo Jun 2016 #69
You have read the rest of the Constitutional provisions dealing with militias, haven't you? RiverNoord Jun 2016 #75
What is the militia if not the whole of the people? Press Virginia Jun 2016 #76
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