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In reply to the discussion: So if you are wrongly put on a watch list, how do you get off it? [View all]friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)62. Fuck all attempts to limit rights via demagoguery and misrepresentation
Sad to see this dude's methods being employed at Democratic Underground:

"There never WAS a right to bear arms as an unrestricted right of every citizen."
Never said that, and that's at least the second time in this thread alone that you have implied
(or flat out stated) that people have said things that they actually didn't.
And this argument isn't even over the "right" to own guns
Ditch the quotes, it is a right whether you like it or not. If you don't like it,
you are perfectly free to try and repeal the Second Amendment. Until then, you still
have to live with it, just as the right-wingers have to live the First and Fourteenth
amndments. They don't like those, too bad.
I'd also point out that the Charlie Hebdo and Bataclan massacre were carried out
with fully automatic firearms bought on the black market. No watch list would have stopped
them, and anyone that thinks mass shootings will cease is living in a fool's paradise.
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Haven't you heard? Due process doesn't matter any more, and secret government lists are good.
Just reading posts
Jun 2016
#1
"You gun nutz will never ever understand logic" I understand situational ethics palmed off as logic
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2016
#35
Fuck all attempts to limit rights via demagoguery and misrepresentation
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2016
#62
Well, Heller was upheld 8-0 in March. Here's the decision, it's not a long one:
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2016
#66
So you have a "right" to get drunk, operate a motor vehicle, and kill people?
oneshooter
Jun 2016
#87
You attribute a sentiment to your interlocutor they did not, in fact, express.
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2016
#33
"paranoid"...for taking her at her word? Or you at *your* word, for that matter?:
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2016
#63
Start going after civilians with the military, and that will change in a hurry
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2016
#68
"What are they afraid of?" Ask the NRA, I'm not a member and thoroughly dislike them.
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2016
#73
for people buying something that I don't think they should be allowed to have anyway
lapfog_1
Jun 2016
#55
That's incorrect in just about every way. A 'spree killer' is defined by multiple locations
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2016
#88
I agree. I want gun control, but ignoring due process is not the way to go about it.
uppityperson
Jun 2016
#7
For example, if your name was something relatively common, like Paul Ryan? nt
Electric Monk
Jun 2016
#19
I wouldn't have a problem with that. I think, if you need to buy a gun in a hurry, you're probably
Electric Monk
Jun 2016
#23
Peace out, this has been a lively discussion but now I need some shut-eye...
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2016
#74
The legal precedent used to justify this could very well by applied elsewhere as well
Lurks Often
Jun 2016
#93
Death. Once the Security State has given you the Scarlet Letter you're fucked.
Odin2005
Jun 2016
#89