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Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 04:13 AM Jun 2016

Despite wishing that all guns could be removed from society.. [View all]

I have to admit it worries me deeply that one of the causes that has finally led to house Dems having the courage to stand up and fight is an attempt to remove rights from 'suspected' terrorists. It's bad enough that people can be prevented from flying based on secret government agency determinations with little or no right of appeal, and I'd expect Dem reps to be opposing that, not working to add to the list.

Honestly with all the different gun control measures that are possible, and indeed all the other causes that were screaming out for direct action and protest, I'm kind of sickened that this is what triggered action. 20 dead primary school kids didn't do it, but a nutjob convert to Islam going on a killing spree suddenly causes #NoFlyNoBuy and mass party protest?

Don't get me wrong, anything that gets guns off the street is good, but this isn't going to do that, at best its just going to add a little extra power to the authoritarian powers that appeared post-9/11.

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It's a necessary step in the right direction. Meldread Jun 2016 #1
If you are a risk to society, that should be something dealt with openly in a court of law. Kentonio Jun 2016 #2
The First Amendment can prevent that from happening. Meldread Jun 2016 #3
The only thing the NRA has is pipoman Jun 2016 #4
Fuck the second amendment and piss on guns. I can say that all day. hunter Jun 2016 #10
I fully agree with everything you just said in case I wasn't clear. Kentonio Jun 2016 #12
I whole hearty agee! Delmette Jun 2016 #15
"nutjob convert to Islam"? JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2016 #5
Veganism? Glassunion Jun 2016 #16
Radical veganism, no doubt. nt JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2016 #17
Actually evangelical Glassunion Jun 2016 #18
Chris Cuomo on CNN interviewed a GOP congressman a few minutes ago. Vinca Jun 2016 #6
The killer was not a 'convert' but practiced the religion into which he was born and raised. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #7
Does it matter? Kentonio Jun 2016 #8
He was not on the no fly list. FXSTD Jun 2016 #29
Even if it would have had an effect.. Kentonio Jun 2016 #30
Many gun control pushes have racist roots. Brickbat Jun 2016 #9
The second amendment itself has always been used in racist and regressive ways. hunter Jun 2016 #14
Actually, the attempts to control guns have been used in "racist and regressive ways." Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #31
So he was a Christian before converting to Islam... ileus Jun 2016 #11
His religion is only relevant here in terms of #NoFlyNoBuy being aimed at Muslims. Kentonio Jun 2016 #13
"Despite wishing that all guns could be removed from society.." NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #19
Why would that be a bad thing exactly? Kentonio Jun 2016 #20
Just one point is good enough for me. NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #21
If there weren't any guns, what would you need defending from? Kentonio Jun 2016 #22
Knives. Methheads. Any jackal that tries to break into my house. NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #23
If you have a gun, then the person breaking into your house will bring one too. Kentonio Jun 2016 #24
Again, you are being intentionally obtuse only seeing your own POV. NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #25
The statement you had an issue with was me saying I'd like all guns to disappear from society. Kentonio Jun 2016 #26
"Spare me your twisted morality." NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #27
"If there weren't any alcohol..." Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #32
Someone with access to smuggled illicit firearms One_Life_To_Give Jun 2016 #34
I think this was an impetus My Good Babushka Jun 2016 #28
The impetus is most reformers of any type see the 5th as the weakest link. Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #33
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