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In reply to the discussion: sensible gun control [View all]pipoman
(16,038 posts)The process of committing suicide is nearly never (I'd say never, but nothing is never) spur of the moment. It is a process that takes days, weeks and months to come to. What is more "grizzly" than shooting ones self in the head? There are plenty of other options and in the absence of a gun every single person who is suicidal will still commit suicide. Not a single peraon says, "hey, I own a gun....I think I'll kill myself (or someone else)"...it just doesn't happen.
Most gang murders are targeted and they would still be targeted with or without guns.
I am by no means saying that in the absence of guns that some of the 30k suicides and murders wouldn't be spared. I am saying that all the bluster from those who try to use the 30k "gun violence deaths" is that 30k people would still be alive...nonsense. I'm saying that almost every suicide by gun would be replaced by a suicide by some other means. That the majority of the 10k non suicide deaths would occur with or without guns.
Several years ago I saw numbers on Australia and suicide was statistically unchanged after their gun control.