ACLU's Most Recent Statement on No Fly No Buy Lists.

[Dustlawyer]

59. Let me tell you something then!

I am a middle aged white man, clean criminal record, attorney, and I have a very common name. I have been on the "No Fly" list since at least December of 2001, when I had two plainclothes police officers point their guns at me in an airport terminal in front of approximately 5,000 people!

I had to have my own assigned FBI agent out of Bush Intercontenental airport. He was supposed to help me be able to fly without getting the "works!" That S.O.B. Never answered his phone one time. I went from flying over 100,000 miles a year to zero because it is quicker if the drive is 600 miles or less, and a whole lot less hassle.

When I called the FAA and the FBI to ask about purging the list they blamed each other. Finally, a supervisor with the FAA in D.C. asked me if I was calling from the airport. I told her they had used the red velvet ropes to box me in a small square in the middle of the damn airport with a cop standing right beside me while people walked by and stared. I had already been there for 2 freakin hours by that point. She told me to go to a bookstore in the airport when they let me go and look in that months issue in the New Yorker magazine and turn to page 76 or some number close to that. The story was about all the people that had the misfortune to have my name. Even a 75 year old black grandmother from Georgia with a similar spelling received the same treatment that I received every time she would fly to see her grandkids.

Cops have automatic probable cause just because my license will pull me up on their stupid, outdated piece of crap they call a list! I have less Right's than you and they want one more. When does it stop? This story above told you how we cannot get off the list and almost all of us don't deserve to be on it. This is ok with you in America?

I went and got a concealed carry permit because they said they would do something like this last Christmas. I didn't do it because I wanted a gun, I still don't own one, I did it so I could have one more piece of evidence that I am not a terrorist from South Yeman who once used my name as an alias. At l least that's what my FBI agent told me that he wasn't supposed to tell me. It's all bullshit, it's so they can have an excuse to spy on me. They can put any name on there and instantly everyone in the world with that name is on the list!

I think we need to ban the sale of assault weapons and do a buyback of them right before Christmas when a lot of these owners will need Christmas cash! We need to regulate it in a lot of ways with licensing and minimum age requirements, storage requirements, mandatory training and recertification. We need to restrict who can own one, but we need to do it with more than just a name!