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In reply to the discussion: England should feel the consequences for voting to leave the EU. [View all]Corporate666
(587 posts)You are calling for treating the oldest and staunchest ally of the USA in a manner more heavy-handed and economically brutal than we treat China, or Russia.
Think about that. You are calling to punish the UK for having the audacity to vote on their membership in a trade union more harshly than you want to punish countries that engage in murder for hire, child prostitution, espionage, slave trading and any other number of atrocities.
Think about that for just a moment.
As for Europe - if the rest of the nations choose to leave because the UK left, then it's pretty clear they aren't happy being part of the union. Why should countries remain part of a union they are unhappy with? It seems your answer is "because if you don't, you too will get 'the treatment'". That's insanity.
And what's this stuff about EU being warlike but being kept together by the EU. Do you live there? Have you lived there? Nothing in my lifetime has been more divisive than the general feeling people have that unelected technocrats are micro-managing their lives with no accountability. Look at the current immigrant crisis.. if there was no EU, it would be a Green/Italian problem that the rest of Europe could help with - but because of the EU, it's a problem for all of Europe and none of them can agree on how to handle it. Look at the Greek crisis - the EU was barely able to handle it, and it left the Germans feeling used that they work and save and their money got sent to lazy Greeks. And the Greeks feel like Germany baked a pie, took 99% of it and that they're under the thumb of cold-hearted Germans who make them dance just like happened 60 years ago. Both sides are unhappy and most of the rest of the EU is unhappy too.
I think it's ironically amusing that diversity and freedom is a cornerstone of liberal ideals but as soon as the UK excercises their freedom, some folks want to crush the nation worse than anything we've done to Russia or Yemen or Saudia Arabia or Venezuela, all because they DARE not to want to be forcibly melded into a homogenized Europe where they lose their individuality and control over their future.