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Here's why 52% of British voted to leave [View all] TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2016 OP
Well, according to some here on this website brentspeak Jun 2016 #1
like Trump has any respect in the world swhisper1 Jun 2016 #18
We ignore Trump at our own Peril. He is actually providing a very good read on the real FighttheFuture Jun 2016 #111
this has been bugging me, about Trump's messaging nashville_brook Jun 2016 #141
If Trumpenfuror is for something I'm definitely against it. Initech Jun 2016 #135
We better pay attention to this! rateyes Jun 2016 #2
I agree yourpaljoey Jun 2016 #152
why don't the other countries have people who treestar Jun 2016 #3
They do! TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2016 #7
Oh, yes! Anti-establishment populist movements are Hortensis Jun 2016 #103
This message was self-deleted by its author stopbush Jun 2016 #123
Boy! Certainly often. Being a successful leader Hortensis Jun 2016 #127
This message was self-deleted by its author stopbush Jun 2016 #128
You're on your own with this one. Hortensis Jun 2016 #132
Spot on response. chapdrum Jun 2016 #116
They just haven't had referendums yet. nt B2G Jun 2016 #16
My bet is that the "working class" will not come out better under Exit. They might feel better Hoyt Jun 2016 #4
I agree somewhat. TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2016 #5
I agree. They will be even more screwed for their fit of petulance. alarimer Jun 2016 #10
Yes, I agree. This will not end well. mountain grammy Jun 2016 #81
This message was self-deleted by its author stopbush Jun 2016 #125
Eu must reform. Too many members want out for justified reasons swhisper1 Jun 2016 #17
Of course they won't. Adrahil Jun 2016 #25
Not wanting to have the bureaucrats in Brussels TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2016 #29
That just sounds like right-win nonsense. Adrahil Jun 2016 #35
That sounds like elitist drivel brentspeak Jun 2016 #58
Sure. Look at who voted how. This was not driven by concerns about the 1%. Adrahil Jun 2016 #67
Uh, can you back up whatever it was you just said? brentspeak Jun 2016 #69
The leaders of the leave side were highly anti immigrant mythology Jun 2016 #124
^^^AMEN to this!^^^ Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #138
Agree 100% SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2016 #144
Boris Johmson wants a UK that is a "hyper-capitalist island freed of EU regulations". pampango Jun 2016 #43
Meanwhile in political reality forjusticethunders Jun 2016 #6
Don't you think stuff like this leftynyc Jun 2016 #9
So break everything since a couple of important things aren't perfect? REALLY?! uponit7771 Jun 2016 #14
Do you always shove words into leftynyc Jun 2016 #27
Wasn't being rhetorical, honest question... any answer? tia uponit7771 Jun 2016 #34
I'm not British leftynyc Jun 2016 #40
"We ignore the problems people see with migrants and immigration at our peril"... WTF!? uponit7771 Jun 2016 #41
That's very PC of you leftynyc Jun 2016 #44
OK if its PC as long as its rooted in reality and tells the truth, MOST societies that were for... uponit7771 Jun 2016 #54
Is it too PC of me to ask you to back up that claim with some evidence? Violet_Crumble Jun 2016 #142
Evidence of this claim? AngryAmish Jun 2016 #66
America uponit7771 Jun 2016 #68
And yet it was also strong with Jim Crow. Igel Jun 2016 #146
Not as strong as it is without it uponit7771 Jun 2016 #147
The point is that they're blaming these problems on POC forjusticethunders Jun 2016 #20
THEIR point is leftynyc Jun 2016 #33
That's usually cover for human tribalism, I don't see an issue with that if there's no critical mass uponit7771 Jun 2016 #39
With the British pound crashing leftynyc Jun 2016 #42
I'm talking about the immigration unfairness outlined in your response... not the Brexit vote uponit7771 Jun 2016 #57
But it is at critical mass TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2016 #51
It wasn't this way BEFORE "immigrants"? tia... I remember when I lived in Europe UK housing was.... uponit7771 Jun 2016 #59
Well, I lived in England TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2016 #71
You have any evidence that the expensive housing was caused by immigrants? tia uponit7771 Jun 2016 #72
Multiple reasons, actually TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2016 #85
A link would suite me better than claims, tia uponit7771 Jun 2016 #87
Who's responsible for that? Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #77
See my post 85. Multiple reasons for housing shortage TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2016 #89
Well, for start, you can trace the shortage of social housing to the Thatcher years. Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #94
I believe I very simply said the same thing TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2016 #98
Maybe it's because I read your OP: Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #110
Yes, something is going on TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2016 #118
But this is the myth of austerity used to promote good old divide and conquer tactics. Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #126
I disagree about the taxes. TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2016 #129
In my locality, that's just not true. Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #134
Same for a lot of immigrants in this country TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2016 #140
The problem is they're just factually wrong Recursion Jun 2016 #83
EU migrants are almost all white whatthehey Jun 2016 #45
Thank you! TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2016 #52
Semantics, they stoked human tribalism to get the leave vote... who cares the shade of skin and uponit7771 Jun 2016 #62
I don't think correcting an assumption about "POC" is just semantics really. whatthehey Jun 2016 #65
the subthread related to immigrants whether they'er PoC or not its the bases of human... uponit7771 Jun 2016 #74
You do know posts are linked to the one they responded to right? whatthehey Jun 2016 #76
"EU migrants are almost all white"... was not a counter to the point involving PoC? tia uponit7771 Jun 2016 #79
Of course it was! And they are NOT POC. How fucking simpler can I make it? whatthehey Jun 2016 #80
true PaulaFarrell Jun 2016 #109
the housing lists are based on need and family situation PaulaFarrell Jun 2016 #104
I agree. See post 85 TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2016 #105
+1, Trump and Putin supported Brexit ... bout all I need to know about it uponit7771 Jun 2016 #13
This claim appears to be untrue! Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #46
link... "weak economies" has always been his position even though he didn't weigh on it during this uponit7771 Jun 2016 #49
So the above post is untrue as I said!! Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #82
Envy and anger are great motivators that solve nothing BeyondGeography Jun 2016 #8
The article wasn't about solutions TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2016 #91
My opinion is it's a stressful time in Europe and political profiteering BeyondGeography Jun 2016 #99
You're messing up the poutrage... sendero Jun 2016 #11
Donald Trump thanks you for your vote. forjusticethunders Jun 2016 #21
Only stupid people... sendero Jun 2016 #22
The point is that the "white working class anti-establishment populism" thing is forjusticethunders Jun 2016 #23
Oh, for goodness' sake. TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2016 #26
Your insinuation is insulting angrychair Jun 2016 #86
No, I'm insuiating that a lot of what is driving "populist anger" forjusticethunders Jun 2016 #155
Poles are POC? (n/t) SMC22307 Jun 2016 #154
+1000 smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #149
Trump and Putin supported Brexit ... bout all I need to know about it uponit7771 Jun 2016 #12
Thanks swhisper1 Jun 2016 #15
Congrats on one of the few posts that addressed the issues. FLPanhandle Jun 2016 #19
+1 Agree. nt jonno99 Jun 2016 #95
Brexit supported by Trump. Enuf said! leftofcool Jun 2016 #24
No, that's not enough. And it's no substitute for thought. Marr Jun 2016 #114
Uh huh. Or just racism, mostly. HERVEPA Jun 2016 #28
Great post!! Kilgore Jun 2016 #30
I lived in England TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2016 #37
Same experience Kilgore Jun 2016 #70
Tea kettle absurdity TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2016 #75
"Tea kettle absurdity" - Yep, we wouldn't put up with something like that here in the US - Oh jonno99 Jun 2016 #96
Back at you. TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2016 #100
i live in England PaulaFarrell Jun 2016 #106
I would more accurately describe that TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2016 #108
i have a realistic view PaulaFarrell Jun 2016 #112
Good analysis. Same thing here, but they won't listen. closeupready Jun 2016 #31
and the media is presenting this saying it is all about immigration. RDANGELO Jun 2016 #32
In other words it's a mix of Sanders AND Trump voters concerns flamingdem Jun 2016 #36
Yes, it's the same in Wales. geardaddy Jun 2016 #88
I have a cousin in Cornwall Freddie Jun 2016 #136
Didn't know about that flamingdem Jun 2016 #137
This is why Socialism doesn't work Yavin4 Jun 2016 #38
The problem here isn't socialism; it's globalization. RDANGELO Jun 2016 #48
The problem here is that "other people" are getting benefits Yavin4 Jun 2016 #50
The uk has the worst income inequality in the world except for the US. RDANGELO Jun 2016 #53
Brexit won because of xenophobia Yavin4 Jun 2016 #55
The xenophobia point is true, we have polls that prove it. Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #73
It's why growth is required, whether that's capitalism, or socialism, or whatever The2ndWheel Jun 2016 #60
I would add communication to your energy argument Yavin4 Jun 2016 #122
So, because racism and white privilege frazzled Jun 2016 #47
Vast majority of EU immigrants are white kcjohn1 Jun 2016 #61
Is a desire to stop immigration always racist? David__77 Jun 2016 #107
It's most certainly bigotry frazzled Jun 2016 #120
Thank YOU! smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #56
Typical of Americans elljay Jun 2016 #101
thanks Bucky Jun 2016 #63
People all over the world are fucking pissed at the systems of corruption. phazed0 Jun 2016 #64
Britain is the 5th largest economy Geronimoe Jun 2016 #78
Those in England who can't afford to retire in France geardaddy Jun 2016 #84
Thanks for that. TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2016 #90
This is going to be a mess! And ... ananda Jun 2016 #92
TPP played directly into this PatrynXX Jun 2016 #93
You nailed it Prism Jun 2016 #97
Shows how out of touch people are TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2016 #102
More upper middleclass types shouting 'racist' at everyone who disagrees with their Marr Jun 2016 #113
Exactly Populist_Prole Jun 2016 #119
Time for the Brexit voters to reread Animal Farm...for the umpteenth time. Android3.14 Jun 2016 #115
you are quoting the Telegraph PaulaFarrell Jun 2016 #117
There was a big fuss a year or so ago Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #131
i don't read the rw rags PaulaFarrell Jun 2016 #133
K&R. Duval Jun 2016 #121
Thanks for posting this. kiva Jun 2016 #130
they were also lied to by the 'leave' campaign..... spanone Jun 2016 #139
If Dems get one message from this Brexit vote it should be.. Teamster Jeff Jun 2016 #143
It's going to get scary down the line. Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #145
75% of the younger group wanted to stay because they grew up in the freedom to travel to Sunlei Jun 2016 #148
This is why. HuckleB Jun 2016 #150
are there any brits or americans in england here certainot Jun 2016 #151
austerity did not help. pansypoo53219 Jun 2016 #153
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