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MotorCityMan

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32. What makes me so sick about the Orlando attack
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 11:19 AM
Jun 2016

is that it happened in a gay bar. Oh, I know there have been other shootings and tragedies in gay bars, but I don't believe on this scale.

When I came out at 18 in 1983, I thought the bars were the greatest thing in the world. Homosexuality wasn't talked about as openly then as now (not that today is all sunshine and flowers, but it was a much different climate then). In the movies (especially the teen, let's-all-get-laid movies), "faggot" and "queer" were the absolute worse insult you could use on someone. I went to a good friend's funeral who died of AIDS, and then had to go to work and hear coworkers making AIDS jokes (I did go to HR about that, I was SO angry about that). I stayed firmly in the closet at work and always, always was on guard to not say the wrong thing, not look at a guy to long, etc.., so worried to be found out.

After dealing with this all day every day, the bars were like a sanctuary. They were a place you could go and let all your guards down and be yourself. Better still, you had one major thing in common with almost everyone else in the bar, and they were dealing with all the same crap you were. There was always such a feeling of community and belonging there, it really made it so much easier to deal with the day to day bullshit.

Now it's like that sanctuary has been invaded and contaminated. I don't go to the bars very much anymore, but when I do there will be that thought in my mind now that someone could burst in firing. Nowadays, of course, there are allot more options to meet and connect with other gays. To some of us older gays (a few friends I discussed this with agreed), it feels like this took something away from us that was really special.

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I've learned to reserve comment here, even if I have opinions, because closeupready Jun 2016 #1
oh i'm going to pride. it's like a yearly pilgrimage! gotta do it or i lose my gay creds~ La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #2
... closeupready Jun 2016 #3
do you go? La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #4
Not for the last couple years. closeupready Jun 2016 #7
every year my enthusiasm falls another 10%, but i do always enjoy it! La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #8
Excellent post, LLP. brer cat Jun 2016 #5
thanks much hon! La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #6
I haven't commented much either for a lot of the same reasons. Photographer Jun 2016 #9
What I really hate awoke_in_2003 Jun 2016 #14
every time i think about it, i really feel vomit-y. La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #15
What makes me so sick about the Orlando attack MotorCityMan Jun 2016 #32
I saw that awoke_in_2003 Jun 2016 #10
it was a nonsensical statement, along with many other angry and bitter La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #16
pm me a link? I keep tabs. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #21
I've turned into a real asshole about guns and gun love. hunter Jun 2016 #11
me too. i have lost all patience with guns, gun lovers, and people who think that gun rights are La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #13
You and me both. I've had it with being "nice" and getting run over. nolabear Jun 2016 #17
K&R Quayblue Jun 2016 #12
Thanks!!! La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #35
Two things I can think of for mass shootings passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #18
not much we can do about religion, but we can do more about protecting lGBT people La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #19
kick for truth Blue_Tires Jun 2016 #20
k&r Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #22
Love for one another should be the norm - not devices for killing csziggy Jun 2016 #23
thanks for saying this. sorry, i somehow neglected to respond to this post La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #36
That's OK - it is an active thread csziggy Jun 2016 #37
I know what you mean. I feel the same way. William769 Jun 2016 #24
... La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #28
Hey Hekate Jun 2016 #25
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K&R mcar Jun 2016 #26
Thanks hon La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #30
. ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #27
... La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #31
Could have been me and my friends. bigwillq Jun 2016 #33
.... La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #34
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