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AntiBank

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3. watch and wait till Clinton does her likely post election pivot and TPP (if not rammed through

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 02:46 PM

Jun 2016

already in the lame duck, which I am terrified of) is teed up for passage by her.

Many of "haters" will become the loudest cheerleaders for passage.

There are plenty of ex parte DLC 3rd-wayers just itching to cram more neolib action plans down our collective gullet.

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The EU doesn't protect workers' rights - it has destroyed them [View all] AntiBank Jun 2016 OP

amazing how TPP haters seem to love the EU so much nt msongs Jun 2016 #1

It's amazing that haters of trade deals... Meldread Jun 2016 #2

you just dont get it, it is not JUST Brexit, the entire EU was a priori a horrid project AntiBank Jun 2016 #4

Oh, I know exactly what you people want. Meldread Jun 2016 #5

ask the Greeks about fuckery AntiBank Jun 2016 #6

You are too busy engaging in the imaginary battle in your mind... Meldread Jun 2016 #7

I can simply reply that you have far too little faith for Labour AntiBank Jun 2016 #10

It is not the left that I do not have faith in, it is the voters. Meldread Jun 2016 #13

you keep saying neoliberalism is the far right, it is not, it is an infection of the left (making AntiBank Jun 2016 #17

Agree. Sometimes rebuilding from bottom up only answer. George Eliot Jun 2016 #19

Neoliberalism is defined by... Meldread Jun 2016 #20

"a general favoring of laissez-faire economic ideals, support for privatization, fiscal austerity, AntiBank Jun 2016 #25

Neoliberalism is NOT leftist. a la izquierda Jun 2016 #48

never said it was left, obviously AntiBank Jun 2016 #49

No, you said it's an infection of the left. a la izquierda Jun 2016 #62

I think the point was that the Aerows Jun 2016 #63

Well that I can agree with... a la izquierda Jun 2016 #64

and that is what I meant AntiBank Jun 2016 #65

btw I had read that Mason article several days ago AntiBank Jun 2016 #18

not the collapse, just reform swhisper1 Jun 2016 #26

"You people"?? whathehell Jun 2016 #50

watch and wait till Clinton does her likely post election pivot and TPP (if not rammed through AntiBank Jun 2016 #3

First intelligent thread on Brexit I've read. Thanks. George Eliot Jun 2016 #8

It is an immigrant issue: that's what the polls all show was the Leave voters' main concern muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #44

But the main reason... JSup Jun 2016 #46

Yeah, that's the situation in the UK. Government policy has caused a housing shortage muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #47

Yeah, employment is pretty decent... JSup Jun 2016 #61

K&R - though the EU didn't start off corrupt. closeupready Jun 2016 #9

Fido didn't start off... sendero Jun 2016 #12

Well regardless, it doesn't matter what I think - I'm American, and closeupready Jun 2016 #15

On the other hand, there's this to consider: closeupready Jun 2016 #16

Corruption. Everything becomes corrupt. Americans must stay informed. George Eliot Jun 2016 #23

UK just dug their own grave. JaneyVee Jun 2016 #11

That's why British unions, Jeremy Corbyn and Bernie Sanders supported Remain and pampango Jun 2016 #14

Link Bernie's support please. Per link, not so. George Eliot Jun 2016 #22

For example... LeftishBrit Jun 2016 #29

Sure. "Bernie Sanders Says He Hopes Britain Votes To Remain In The European Union" pampango Jun 2016 #31

Just wait until the 3rd Greek bailout and the upcoming European bank crisis. roamer65 Jun 2016 #21

+1000 laundry_queen Jun 2016 #42

It is hard to have a discussion with folks that don't know the difference between free and fair Rex Jun 2016 #24

+1000 smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #27

This is bullshit. I'm european and I remember how it was before the single market` anigbrowl Jun 2016 #28

Thanks for some firsthand knowledge. Hoyt Jun 2016 #30

I am a European resident too, some of it pre EU and you are dramatically distorting things AntiBank Jun 2016 #32

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you are the one with willful ignorance, all you do is ad hominem attacks AntiBank Jun 2016 #36

bullshit eh? AntiBank Jun 2016 #43

I'm the Queen of England and think you're disingenuous. tenderfoot Jun 2016 #35

have you ever lived here in the EU? you have some nerve calling me AntiBank Jun 2016 #37

pwned AntiBank Jun 2016 #41

Man d_r Jun 2016 #53

Debt at all levels (personal, private business, local governmental, national, and international) AntiBank Jun 2016 #33

The EU has done a better job of protecting workers' rights than the Tories would've done Spider Jerusalem Jun 2016 #38

go tell that to the millions of Eastern Europeans who are being AntiBank Jun 2016 #39

I'll be expecting the Tory's to enact sweeping labor laws soon. joshcryer Jun 2016 #45

Well said. British unions supported Remain because they trusted the EU more than they trusted the pampango Jun 2016 #40

"Whichever Tory is the next prime minister". That says it right all there. Teamster Jeff Jun 2016 #54

Labour campaigned to stay in the EU so I would love to see them win the next election. pampango Jun 2016 #56

The EU did such a good job with workers rights 52% of Brits voted to Leave Teamster Jeff Jun 2016 #51

Or both Spider Jerusalem Jun 2016 #52

No doubt racists are getting their rocks off but that doesn't explain 52% Teamster Jeff Jun 2016 #55

Older conservative voters favored Leave. Younger liberal voters favored Remain. pampango Jun 2016 #57

That's Odd TubbersUK Jun 2016 #58

I completely disagree. The EU has been wonderful for workers. eom MohRokTah Jun 2016 #59

drive-by lightweight woo, you rebutted nothing I posited, and here is a direct example of the EU AntiBank Jun 2016 #60