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bravenak

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51. I call that a bigot

Reply to AllTooEasy (Reply #46)

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 07:37 PM

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The Game Metaphor: How to Teach Racists That There is no Such Thing as Reverse Racism [View all] bravenak Jun 2016 OP

Institutional and personally mediated racism are two very different things. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #1

Have to find a different word than racist bravenak Jun 2016 #2

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #81

no, still racist. puffy socks Jun 2016 #82

I strongly disagree with this metroins Jun 2016 #3

Then, just about all post-20th century social scientists ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #7

You said it, not me metroins Jun 2016 #13

I'm saying that better than 2 decades of social scientists agree with the author ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #36

Brb metroins Jun 2016 #50

Okay ... Not going to argue with someone that is convinced by ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #61

lol melman Jun 2016 #96

They sure did, with all those peer reviewed RW articles they came back with kcr Jun 2016 #122

LOL ... And thus, you demonstrate the problem with relying on "dictionaries." 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #131

wrong heaven05 Jun 2016 #115

The problem is that the technical use of "racism" by social scientists is not the same tblue37 Jun 2016 #133

Thank you ... this really is a "popular parlance"/"technical definition" argument ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #137

Yeah, they do. AllTooEasy Jun 2016 #39

Indeed. cloudbase Jun 2016 #70

The author teaches racism and intersectionality bravenak Jun 2016 #8

No, it is not metroins Jun 2016 #17

Merriam Webster does not define racism for sociologists. bravenak Jun 2016 #19

Then feel free metroins Jun 2016 #26

Point them out then bravenak Jun 2016 #28

I'll do micro and macro metroins Jun 2016 #42

Ok. But this discussion is about racism in America. bravenak Jun 2016 #44

Reread your article metroins Jun 2016 #52

So were you alive 70 yrs ago, you would've agreed with THOSE sociologists too? 7962 Jun 2016 #106

I don't agree that anyone can be the target of racism mcar Jun 2016 #30

Dictionaries are descriptive, not prescriptive gollygee Jun 2016 #37

Racism is systematic while bigotry is individualistic. ZombieHorde Jun 2016 #49

I disagree scscholar Jun 2016 #93

Of course a member of any race can be racist towards another race. 7962 Jun 2016 #104

I'll post a prescient ... "But. But. But. Whoosh" here. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #4

I know bravenak Jun 2016 #10

I grew up in an area where everyone was a minority. cpwm17 Jun 2016 #5

And the dictionary is not the place to find sociological definitions. bravenak Jun 2016 #9

A dictionary is where to find the meaning of words, which is, how words are used. cpwm17 Jun 2016 #20

And if you want a fuller meaning that is relevant today bravenak Jun 2016 #23

Dictionaries are descriptive, not prescriptive gollygee Jun 2016 #38

And Im not a sociologist Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #40

Racism = bigotry + institutional/cultural power ... Welcome to the 21st Century. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #12

Another dictionary: cpwm17 Jun 2016 #34

Merriam-Websters Learner's Dictionary hasn't studies the phenomena of racism. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #54

That's irrelevant. cpwm17 Jun 2016 #74

Too true. romanic Jun 2016 #123

I'm not under the illusion linuxman Jun 2016 #6

This has been discussed for years bravenak Jun 2016 #11

Neat. So do I. linuxman Jun 2016 #21

That's nice bravenak Jun 2016 #27

Isn't it just? linuxman Jun 2016 #31

+1 ... But now, we have the better than 2 decades of peer-reviewed works ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #22

I think just discussing it makes some feel oppressed bravenak Jun 2016 #25

Fragility! 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #53

We better be nice bravenak Jun 2016 #55

I fear I may be seen as having crossed a line in a thread response... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #65

Have a good time! Drink one for me! bravenak Jun 2016 #66

Put a group made up all, or almost all, of white men in a room gollygee Jun 2016 #43

That's how I see it bravenak Jun 2016 #48

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #77

+1 Marr Jun 2016 #80

Thank you for this, brave.. it certainly makes sense to me.. it's not the same. Cha Jun 2016 #14

Thank you!! bravenak Jun 2016 #16

Thank you, Sweetheart! Cha Jun 2016 #24

Nope, you don't get to newspeak "racism" Taitertots Jun 2016 #15

I can discuss the effects of long term racism and it's effect on us as a nation bravenak Jun 2016 #18

Of course you can discuss the history of racist behavior/ideas in America Taitertots Jun 2016 #33

This is about reverse racism not being a thing. bravenak Jun 2016 #35

If you hold any animus against another race, you're racist (regardless of your own race) Taitertots Jun 2016 #41

I have no idea what you are talking about at this point bravenak Jun 2016 #45

It's unambiguous. Anyone with racial animus is a racist Taitertots Jun 2016 #56

This paragraph explains that: bravenak Jun 2016 #59

No it doesn't. It's an offensive attempt to shield racists from criticism Taitertots Jun 2016 #67

It was a good explanation bravenak Jun 2016 #68

LOL. It's trash defending racist scum. Taitertots Jun 2016 #73

You're right of course, but here its "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" 7962 Jun 2016 #109

Not surprising melman Jun 2016 #90

You think every anti-racist activist is actually a racist gollygee Jun 2016 #47

Do you believe people can have racial animus without being racist? Taitertots Jun 2016 #63

I hope someday gollygee Jun 2016 #76

+1, that about sums it up. Marr Jun 2016 #79

I find the term "reverse racism" ridiculous and have never used it. Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #29

I agree that it is ridiculous bravenak Jun 2016 #32

Bullshit. My Dad hated White people AllTooEasy Jun 2016 #46

I call that a bigot bravenak Jun 2016 #51

Nope doesnt sould like a racist to me jack_krass Jun 2016 #134

As a white man, I grew up learning that Reverse Racism is what the South wanted to exist so badly. Rex Jun 2016 #57

Such a strange coping mechanism.... bravenak Jun 2016 #62

I've never understood it. Rex Jun 2016 #125

Courts ruled differently in several cases One_Life_To_Give Jun 2016 #58

The US courts are notoriously biased against blacks. bravenak Jun 2016 #60

The Hartford case was pretty clear One_Life_To_Give Jun 2016 #72

That is called discrimination bravenak Jun 2016 #88

Discrimination based upon the victims Race One_Life_To_Give Jun 2016 #92

Right. Still not racism. bravenak Jun 2016 #94

You are referring to "reverse discrimination" NOT reverse racism... Raster Jun 2016 #64

I'm both amused and horrified by some of the responses in this thread. hunter Jun 2016 #69

From your link sheshe2 Jun 2016 #71

If someone tries to convince you they *cannot*, by definition, be racist... Marr Jun 2016 #75

Exactly. cpwm17 Jun 2016 #84

We are talking within a paradigm of dominant whiteness ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #101

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #107

Oh. ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #108

You're the one redefining the word 'racist'. Marr Jun 2016 #113

No ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #121

You are correct. nt 7962 Jun 2016 #110

I missed what prompted this, but cosign. Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #78

White people going on about reverse racism treestar Jun 2016 #83

I had a friend complain to me about BET once. I laughed my ass off. bravenak Jun 2016 #87

I agree that there is no such thing as "reverse" racism, but that's all I agree with. rhett o rick Jun 2016 #85

Isn't reverse racism being especially *nice* to an, uhm, 'adversarial'(?) race of a different color? immoderate Jun 2016 #86

What's with all the dictionary worship in this thread? betsuni Jun 2016 #89

I also prefer a nice thesaurus. bravenak Jun 2016 #91

Thesauruses are great. "Bigotry" is a synonym for "racism", for example: Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #119

"but but but Bravenak! I'm White and Black people Made Fun of my whiteness" lib87 Jun 2016 #95

+10^10 ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #97

Excellent explanation MrScorpio Jun 2016 #98

Coleman Young said that black people cannot be racist. Oh, how the suburban white politicians howled tclambert Jun 2016 #99

That's very soecific to the US. Adrahil Jun 2016 #112

As was Rhodesia, in its day. JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2016 #130

First, you've got to convince them to stop watching FOX 'news'... Stellar Jun 2016 #100

"Reverse" racism is a dumb term. It's just more racism. (nt) w4rma Jun 2016 #102

I have posted this before but it bears repeating Haveadream Jun 2016 #103

That's brilliant! athena Jun 2016 #111

I'm not sure either Haveadream Jun 2016 #120

yankees vs cleveland. indeed. pansypoo53219 Jun 2016 #105

Exactly Uponthegears Jun 2016 #114

+1000 heaven05 Jun 2016 #116

I think the more we talk about it the better able we are to find some solutions bravenak Jun 2016 #117

hopefully heaven05 Jun 2016 #118

bravenak, do you agree brer cat Jun 2016 #124

I agree with that, I don't find it too simplistic. bravenak Jun 2016 #126

I'm not even going to try with this shit. forjusticethunders Jun 2016 #127

There is no reverse racism NobodyHere Jun 2016 #128

I tend to frame things a little differently. backscatter712 Jun 2016 #129

The reverse of racism is inclusion. LaydeeBug Jun 2016 #132

Racial identity politics is a pholospphy built on a foundtion of jello jack_krass Jun 2016 #135

The system is racist. People are bigots. Iggo Jun 2016 #136