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In reply to the discussion: As a British citizen, I am oscillating between sadness and rage: Brexit is the worst of times [View all]newthinking
(3,982 posts)56. Have you read what the European Left is saying
They are not blaming it on the factors you mention. They are blaming the EU for being unresponsive and leading things to what happened. The EU was meant to be something quite different than it has become in recent years and many, including leftists, were not happy with it as an institution.
http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/06/24/after-brexit-european-left-calls-massive-political-opposition
The Leave campaign won "because the EU establishment have made it impossible, through their anti-democratic reign (not to mention the asphyxiation of weaker countries like Greece), for the people of Britain to imagine a democratic EU," DiEM25 said, adding that the vote should motivate leftists across Europe to unite for a populist movement.
The group's statement continued:
We can proudly look the powers-that-be in Brussels, Berlin, Frankfurt, Paris etc. in the eye and tell them: We tried to save the EU from you. But you have poisoned the EU so badly by silencing the voices of democrats that, though we tried, we could not convince to people of Britain to stay.
We, at DiEM25, are in no mood for being downcast now that Leave won, against our better efforts. As of today, a new exciting challenge begins for our pan-European democratic movement.
[....] As of today, DiEM25 will seize upon the OUT vote to promote its radical agenda of confronting the EU establishment more powerfully than before.
The EUs disintegration is now running at full speed. The DiEM25 campaign of building bridges across Europe, bringing democrats together across borders and political parties, is what Europe needs more than ever to avoid a slide into a xenophobic, deflationary, 1930s-like abyss. In this endeavour, British progressives will be at the heart of DiEM25s campaigns.
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As a British citizen, I am oscillating between sadness and rage: Brexit is the worst of times [View all]
DonViejo
Jun 2016
OP
we have to make sure the US media doesn't let the tRumpians spew their lies here unfettered
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#2
I suppose these nefarious characters are also influencing Italy, Spain,Netherlands and all countries
swhisper1
Jun 2016
#51
The way I see it is they're cheering that Banksters/Corporations are finally gonna get theirs! Yes!
justiceischeap
Jun 2016
#6
The media spin is interesting. They don't want to admit that part of the reason this passed
newthinking
Jun 2016
#23
Most Trump supporters think "their concerns over immigration had been ignored".
pampango
Jun 2016
#22
The "distant and unrepresentative" bureaucracy in Washington is what conservatives here always
pampango
Jun 2016
#29
But we don't vote for the bureaucrats. Conservatives love to complain about them.
pampango
Jun 2016
#35
To try and equate this to the US is ignorant of the situation, respectfully. nt
phazed0
Jun 2016
#26
Older conservatives are uncomfortable with immigration all over the world. Immigrants
pampango
Jun 2016
#31
Immigration in the UK is less than every Western European country other than Finland and Denmark.
pampango
Jun 2016
#39
The Left imagines a "more democratic EU". So do I. The far-right imagines no EU at all.
pampango
Jun 2016
#57