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7. Brexit and the anti-elite revolt: What UK vote may mean for Clinton and Trump

Sat Jun 25, 2016, 07:41 AM

Jun 2016

t was Britain’s poorer and less-educated citizens — angry at not having shared in the economic benefits of a new world order — who pushed it out of the European Union, in a vote that threatens elites, analysts say.

They are those who suffered the worst hangover from the economic crisis, and whose precarious economic position makes them most fearful of rising immigration — to the benefit of far right groups in the EU and Donald Trump in the United States.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/brexit-and-the-anti-elite-revolt-what-uk-vote-may-mean-for-clinton-and-trump/

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Rejectionist movements should terrify all liberal democracies (Mounk in Slate) [View all] Recursion Jun 2016 OP

This stunned disbelief from the indolent twitterati about the consequences of misrule in democratic bemildred Jun 2016 #1

It is a mystery though Recursion Jun 2016 #2

A mystery to you perhaps.That does not make it a mystery. bemildred Jun 2016 #3

No the standard of living in the US peaked around 1968, in the UK 1971, and has been in GreatGazoo Jun 2016 #26

Nope. Recursion Jun 2016 #27

You perhaps aren't interested in facts as you are the one "making up crap," sir. GreatGazoo Jun 2016 #30

Notice that agrees with me Recursion Jun 2016 #33

Income is only one part of people's standard of living and quality of life. nt tblue37 Jun 2016 #40

True; it's "just" the part that buys it... (nt) Recursion Jun 2016 #43

The problem with Brexit is that BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #4

Priceless. nt bemildred Jun 2016 #5

Well stated, BlueMTexpat. secondwind Jun 2016 #10

Unfortunately. BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #11

Singapore is a small part of an island AngryAmish Jun 2016 #16

Singapore was originally part of BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #22

Equating ASEAN to EU is so intellectually dishonest as to approach a lie AngryAmish Jun 2016 #28

Sheesh - did I "equate" BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #31

They're also in ASEAN and joining the TPP (nt) Recursion Jun 2016 #25

So. Well. Said. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #18

Well expressed. n/t Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #41

Precisely. n/t ljm2002 Jun 2016 #39

Behind the support for Brexit and Trump: Economic resentment bemildred Jun 2016 #6

Its strange how people see puffy socks Jun 2016 #51

The only people that see that in the first place are people who like things as they are. bemildred Jun 2016 #54

Brexit and the anti-elite revolt: What UK vote may mean for Clinton and Trump bemildred Jun 2016 #7

What a Failure to Predict Brexit Means for the U.S. bemildred Jun 2016 #8

�As a political matter, you have to take working class viewpoints seriously.� nt bemildred Jun 2016 #9

Their views would make them poorer, so, no we don't (nt) Recursion Jun 2016 #12

I thought this was going to affect everybody? nt bemildred Jun 2016 #13

Who said that? Recursion Jun 2016 #14

The OP? bemildred Jun 2016 #15

We should, because we don't want to erase the gains the working class has seen in the past 20 years Recursion Jun 2016 #17

Well, they seem to have thwarted your will to do them good. nt bemildred Jun 2016 #19

Yep. Not the first time, either (nt) Recursion Jun 2016 #20

Which brings us back to post #9. nt bemildred Jun 2016 #21

Tsipras blames Brexit on austerity, deficiencies in EU leadership bemildred Jun 2016 #23

What does the EU have to do with austerity? Recursion Jun 2016 #24

It's a lesson for all governments FLPanhandle Jun 2016 #29

Yes it is hard: how do you make citizens feel listened to when their ideas will harm them? Recursion Jun 2016 #32

Then your job to communicate and convince them. FLPanhandle Jun 2016 #35

Try listening. I find that often makes people feel listened to. nt bemildred Jun 2016 #36

I have listened, and people don't know WTF they're talking about Recursion Jun 2016 #37

They need good jobs. Did you get that part? nt bemildred Jun 2016 #38

Then they need to leave the rust belt Recursion Jun 2016 #42

Right, they are on their own, aren't they. nt bemildred Jun 2016 #44

We sure as hell were in the "golden" 1970s people seem to miss Recursion Jun 2016 #45

Apparently, in Britain, you don't have to do that, instead you can vote bemildred Jun 2016 #46

Hey, if we could vote on adopting a Westminster-style government I'd vote yes in a heartbeat Recursion Jun 2016 #47

I assure you it can be done here too. nt bemildred Jun 2016 #48

If you don't want your system to be rejected, best make sure that system does not revise Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #34

+1 QC Jun 2016 #49

Who is dumb enough to think "Army rule" is a good idea? Oneironaut Jun 2016 #50

35% of well-off Millennials support a military dictatorship? Odin2005 Jun 2016 #52

"Thursday�s referendum proves that there is no magic firewall that is sure to stop them." lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #53