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8. What a Failure to Predict Brexit Means for the U.S.

Sat Jun 25, 2016, 07:42 AM

Jun 2016

The United Kingdom’s decision to leave the European Union has set off shockwaves across the globe—and rightfully so. Betting markets, pollsters, and pundits suggested the Brits would uphold the status quo. It didn’t take long before Americans started wondering what a failure to predict the Brexit could mean for the United States in a year where Donald Trump, the Republican Party’s presumptive presidential nominee, has outperformed expectations.

There are certainly parallels to be drawn. A similar demographic profile unites many of the people who voted for Britain to leave the EU and voters who have stood by Trump. “Brexit supporters mirror Trump voters,” Reuters reported, “in that they tend to be older, white, less affluent, and less likely to live in urban areas.” So should the referendum results serve as a warning to Americans not to underestimate the potential of a Trump presidency?

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/06/brexit-donald-trump/488774/

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Rejectionist movements should terrify all liberal democracies (Mounk in Slate) [View all] Recursion Jun 2016 OP

This stunned disbelief from the indolent twitterati about the consequences of misrule in democratic bemildred Jun 2016 #1

It is a mystery though Recursion Jun 2016 #2

A mystery to you perhaps.That does not make it a mystery. bemildred Jun 2016 #3

No the standard of living in the US peaked around 1968, in the UK 1971, and has been in GreatGazoo Jun 2016 #26

Nope. Recursion Jun 2016 #27

You perhaps aren't interested in facts as you are the one "making up crap," sir. GreatGazoo Jun 2016 #30

Notice that agrees with me Recursion Jun 2016 #33

Income is only one part of people's standard of living and quality of life. nt tblue37 Jun 2016 #40

True; it's "just" the part that buys it... (nt) Recursion Jun 2016 #43

The problem with Brexit is that BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #4

Priceless. nt bemildred Jun 2016 #5

Well stated, BlueMTexpat. secondwind Jun 2016 #10

Unfortunately. BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #11

Singapore is a small part of an island AngryAmish Jun 2016 #16

Singapore was originally part of BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #22

Equating ASEAN to EU is so intellectually dishonest as to approach a lie AngryAmish Jun 2016 #28

Sheesh - did I "equate" BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #31

They're also in ASEAN and joining the TPP (nt) Recursion Jun 2016 #25

So. Well. Said. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #18

Well expressed. n/t Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #41

Precisely. n/t ljm2002 Jun 2016 #39

Behind the support for Brexit and Trump: Economic resentment bemildred Jun 2016 #6

Its strange how people see puffy socks Jun 2016 #51

The only people that see that in the first place are people who like things as they are. bemildred Jun 2016 #54

Brexit and the anti-elite revolt: What UK vote may mean for Clinton and Trump bemildred Jun 2016 #7

What a Failure to Predict Brexit Means for the U.S. bemildred Jun 2016 #8

�As a political matter, you have to take working class viewpoints seriously.� nt bemildred Jun 2016 #9

Their views would make them poorer, so, no we don't (nt) Recursion Jun 2016 #12

I thought this was going to affect everybody? nt bemildred Jun 2016 #13

Who said that? Recursion Jun 2016 #14

The OP? bemildred Jun 2016 #15

We should, because we don't want to erase the gains the working class has seen in the past 20 years Recursion Jun 2016 #17

Well, they seem to have thwarted your will to do them good. nt bemildred Jun 2016 #19

Yep. Not the first time, either (nt) Recursion Jun 2016 #20

Which brings us back to post #9. nt bemildred Jun 2016 #21

Tsipras blames Brexit on austerity, deficiencies in EU leadership bemildred Jun 2016 #23

What does the EU have to do with austerity? Recursion Jun 2016 #24

It's a lesson for all governments FLPanhandle Jun 2016 #29

Yes it is hard: how do you make citizens feel listened to when their ideas will harm them? Recursion Jun 2016 #32

Then your job to communicate and convince them. FLPanhandle Jun 2016 #35

Try listening. I find that often makes people feel listened to. nt bemildred Jun 2016 #36

I have listened, and people don't know WTF they're talking about Recursion Jun 2016 #37

They need good jobs. Did you get that part? nt bemildred Jun 2016 #38

Then they need to leave the rust belt Recursion Jun 2016 #42

Right, they are on their own, aren't they. nt bemildred Jun 2016 #44

We sure as hell were in the "golden" 1970s people seem to miss Recursion Jun 2016 #45

Apparently, in Britain, you don't have to do that, instead you can vote bemildred Jun 2016 #46

Hey, if we could vote on adopting a Westminster-style government I'd vote yes in a heartbeat Recursion Jun 2016 #47

I assure you it can be done here too. nt bemildred Jun 2016 #48

If you don't want your system to be rejected, best make sure that system does not revise Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #34

+1 QC Jun 2016 #49

Who is dumb enough to think "Army rule" is a good idea? Oneironaut Jun 2016 #50

35% of well-off Millennials support a military dictatorship? Odin2005 Jun 2016 #52

"Thursday�s referendum proves that there is no magic firewall that is sure to stop them." lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #53