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Igel

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32. If everybody votes,

Sat Jun 25, 2016, 09:35 AM

Jun 2016

and 80% vote to enslave the other 20%, that's direct democracy. Democracy in its purest form--no intermediate representatives, no weighting. Heck, use single-question paper ballots and count the results on daises in the middle of town square while televising it.

Democracy =/= "it works like I think it should." Democracy is a form of government, and as long as you comply with the form, it's a democracy.

It's like some of the Arab Spring movements, pissed because democracy didn't bring them prosperity. Again, democracy is a form of government, it is not a form of economics nor does it entail any sort of entailed or imposed income or wealth distribution. Comply with the form, and you have a democracy.

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The right to self-determination is a fundamental right. Why would anyone try to subvert the will of [View all] hill2016 Jun 2016 OP

Being in the majority doesn't equal being right and has zero to do with "knowing better" than others merrily Jun 2016 #1

what gives the minority the right to say what's right or wrong hill2016 Jun 2016 #5

Straw man and other logical fallacies. Posting that being in the majority has to do with merrily Jun 2016 #9

When the elites lose, Democracy isn't so great Press Virginia Jun 2016 #10

I don't know, there was a time where so-called democracy was fine with slavery, discrimination, Hoyt Jun 2016 #2

Slavery=no democracy. ronnie624 Jun 2016 #15

If everybody votes, Igel Jun 2016 #32

It isn't that simple. ronnie624 Jun 2016 #34

The will of the majority does not trump the rights of the minority. Adrahil Jun 2016 #3

the minority hill2016 Jun 2016 #6

I don't know why anyone, who loves democracy, Press Virginia Jun 2016 #8

Democracy means giving people a say and going with the majority. merrily Jun 2016 #11

You are correct. I just keep seeing this argument about the Press Virginia Jun 2016 #13

Thank you. If everything is majority rule, the corollary is that the minority has zero rights. merrily Jun 2016 #16

How would you get a supermajority in a referendum? Press Virginia Jun 2016 #7

Have a referendum on amending the US Constitution. merrily Jun 2016 #12

What does that have to do with the Brexit? Press Virginia Jun 2016 #14

Beats me. You asked how one gets a super majority. I answered. merrily Jun 2016 #19

Switzerland and, I think Denmark, aren't in the EU and they've done just fine Press Virginia Jun 2016 #4

It is odd how much hysteria the press in whipping up newthinking Jun 2016 #17

The entire opposition to the Brexit has been about fear and doom Press Virginia Jun 2016 #18

Wall Street adamantly opposed brexit. merrily Jun 2016 #21

I did not oppose it. As an American 840high Jun 2016 #22

The press is made up of people who believe their college professors AngryAmish Jun 2016 #26

Sigh. Denmark is in the EU. And Switzerland is in Schengen, which the UK isn't. Recursion Jun 2016 #25

Denmark is in the EU oberliner Jun 2016 #31

Proposition 8. (n/t) Iggo Jun 2016 #20

Whenever I find myself in the majority, I'm pleasantly surprised. stone space Jun 2016 #23

Is anybody trying to "subvert" it? Recursion Jun 2016 #24

Is someone trying to subvert it? TubbersUK Jun 2016 #27

Well - it's a different thing when BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #28

Propaganda is a disgusting tool in the hands of unscrupulous people Android3.14 Jun 2016 #29

Hmmmm.... uriel1972 Jun 2016 #30

I don't think "self determination" necessarily means what you think it does. Igel Jun 2016 #33