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uponit7771

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94. This is a prime example of people voting against the best interest, why did UK vote for nearly...

Reply to Boudica the Lyoness (Reply #82)

Sat Jun 25, 2016, 01:34 PM

Jun 2016

... permanent policies like Thatcher and RayGun !!

WHAT THE FUCK DID THEY EXPECT!?!??

You will have less economic security and there goes all the other securities with it along with the neighborhoods !!

I have a semblance of the good stuff you describe in your post in my subdivision in the US (in Texas nevertheless) but that's because MOST here are economically SECURE.

Of course people have time to pick up dog shit and snot and people aren't scared to leave buggies out with their critters cause anyone else can get one too if they want one.

It was Thatcherism and RayGunism that started this ball rolling !!!

The way it was KEPT rolling was to point out the "others" and have people vote against the "others" and their best interest just like the assholes did with the Brexit

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I am amazed - really quite amazed - at some of the Brexit opinions I am reading here on DU [View all] Stinky The Clown Jun 2016 OP

Yes, what you're espousing seems to be the officially-approved interpretation. PSPS Jun 2016 #1

what do you mean by officially endorsed? if you mean historically accurate then you are right La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #6

Which officials approved the interpretation? yardwork Jun 2016 #8

YOU ARE SO WRONG. "the governing body in Brussels isn't elected..." Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #15

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #52

It is a supra-national body. It can and does study, approve Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #66

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #75

There are channels for Parliamentary proposals to be presented to Brussels for study and approval. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #81

MEPs cannot introduce legislation. OrwellwasRight Jun 2016 #213

See here: Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #231

I'm sorry OrwellwasRight Jun 2016 #241

How is elected by each country not elected? scscholar Jun 2016 #227

The post with the quote "the governing body in Brussels isn't elected..." was hidden. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #232

This is a good example of the point I made below. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #43

Your argument would make more sense if the UK didn't have the unelected House of Lords. Metric System Jun 2016 #129

People were saying they didn't trust "experts" and trusted this Trump-like politician. Sort of like kerry-is-my-prez Jun 2016 #140

I think you're confusing that with the real unelected body known as the House of Lords... truebrit71 Jun 2016 #221

"Living in the Age of Stupid: How to comprehend Brexit, Trump and the Anti�s" HuckleB Jun 2016 #2

Good read. flying rabbit Jun 2016 #26

Yes, it is. mobeau69 Jun 2016 #194

good article treestar Jun 2016 #70

Indeed. Our education system has to adjust in some way. HuckleB Jun 2016 #87

This message was self-deleted by its author stopbush Jun 2016 #116

That's exactly the type of voters WHEN CRABS ROAR Jun 2016 #195

"...type of voters..." greiner3 Jun 2016 #197

Interesting read, thanks for the link. sarae Jun 2016 #146

+1000 nt ProudProgressiveNow Jun 2016 #198

You are right but all of this is irrelevant. It's done. yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #3

And Great Britain will shrink down to Little England. GoneOffShore Jun 2016 #10

Totally off topic but ... I absolutely LOVE Swan & Flanders!! n/t Stonepounder Jun 2016 #13

Also off topic, but an interesting side note: thucythucy Jun 2016 #97

My ex wife introduced me to them soon after we met. GoneOffShore Jun 2016 #125

This is ironic, thucythucy Jun 2016 #255

It's been 30 hours. Let's talk next week. yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #22

I'd say we'll see rain next week ToxMarz Jun 2016 #76

In 1945, Germany was a hollow shell philosslayer Jun 2016 #175

I do hope you are correct, but with the rise of Farage and Johnson, GoneOffShore Jun 2016 #185

Ukip is done though Helen Borg Jun 2016 #191

They probably won't though. GoneOffShore Jun 2016 #239

They had lots of help from other countries to rebuild...mostly US. libdem4life Jun 2016 #230

It's anything but "done". The fallout has not even begun. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #48

Scotland is making noise about another referendum to leave UK greiner3 Jun 2016 #200

They should be careful; oil is low & they get a lot from England. 7962 Jun 2016 #228

Tend to agree. But there is more going on as well. DirkGently Jun 2016 #4

Agreed. They threw caution to the wind mdbl Jun 2016 #25

Buyers' remorse is setting in. Cameron foolishly set the referendum as a simple majority . . . brush Jun 2016 #80

Cameron is done, stick a fork in him. Rex Jun 2016 #84

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2016 #89

Didn't he pull the same bluff with Scotland? DirkGently Jun 2016 #108

Yes, the guy is an idiot. Rex Jun 2016 #118

Not only will he not survive, he will be reviled as the incompetent jackass who Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #141

I agree. A total idiot. Stinky The Clown Jun 2016 #143

Perhaps what Jim Messina, political advisor to Cameron and Hillary superPAC co-chair told him JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #121

The tools available to the general public are votes, torches or pitchforks. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #28

Completely agree, dirk. More going on in post Brexit manipulation as well. suffragette Jun 2016 #63

Could you perhaps summarize what the problems are in the establishment itself? ancianita Jun 2016 #100

i know. so many dumb and informed posts backing xenophobia and other far right values La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #5

There are an awful lot of amazingly ignorant people with opinions, yes Spider Jerusalem Jun 2016 #7

Please stay... ReRe Jun 2016 #21

Racist scum feel emboldened to be openly racist by the "leave" vote Spider Jerusalem Jun 2016 #42

Thanks. It is better to here this from those who are affected. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #51

^^^This!^^^ Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #74

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2016 #90

Agree DonCoquixote Jun 2016 #105

^^^This!^^^ Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #119

Funny thing is DonCoquixote Jun 2016 #124

Thanks for the info... ReRe Jun 2016 #123

+1000 Hissyspit Jun 2016 #149

Thanks for your observations. lovemydog Jun 2016 #161

Me too, I could have written this word for word auntpurl Jun 2016 #167

It happened to me yesterday Dworkin Jun 2016 #235

Jesus wept. auntpurl Jun 2016 #236

I'm sorry to say that it doesn't surprise me at all. yardwork Jun 2016 #9

Thank you SO much for this dose of reality, Stinky. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #11

I'm in agreement with you and Stinky. The Wielding Truth Jun 2016 #37

Chalk one for informed, rational opinion! Thanks... Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #46

Thanks also for your observations lovemydog Jun 2016 #163

You're welcome. I live in France, so like everybody on the Continent I feel directly concerned. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #165

many of us think the same about the support neoliberalism gets stupidicus Jun 2016 #12

Well we can't let those poor groups of elites lose anything that would suck for them. Rex Jun 2016 #14

I agree, by and large. alarimer Jun 2016 #16

"like Trump voters, have been left behind by neoliberalism" LOL! Buzz Clik Jun 2016 #18

+1000. nt sufrommich Jun 2016 #19

Entertainment from bizarro land?. Chuckles since all that primary whack is gone I guess Person 2713 Jun 2016 #73

Xenophobia was definitely part of the equation, along with ignorance. Buzz Clik Jun 2016 #17

I always liked to believe awoke_in_2003 Jun 2016 #122

So much was being written about Brexit - asiliveandbreathe Jun 2016 #20

Populist isn't good, nor bad. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #23

unfortunately, they are marching to idiocracy mdbl Jun 2016 #27

England did fine before the EU. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #30

yes but now they are under the thumb of sky news mdbl Jun 2016 #31

I'm not confident, but I'm not leaping to any conclusions either. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #35

I can only speak for myself mdbl Jun 2016 #45

Because Brexit was at its base xenophobic rather than any altruistic desire to shake the yoke... truebrit71 Jun 2016 #219

Totally different time with different challenges. Laser102 Jun 2016 #40

Yeah, like the sun now sets on a much smaller, less influential, read "non-existent", empire. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #57

We live in a different world now. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #53

yes, and I suspect DonCoquixote Jun 2016 #109

There wasn't an EU at that time, so it was hardly a case of England choosing isolation LeftishBrit Jun 2016 #59

The alternative to right wing populism is leftist populism. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #68

As someone said, the Middle isn't holding...i.e. Middle Class. libdem4life Jun 2016 #229

^^^AMEN to this!^^^ Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #77

Thanks! And those titles are so appropriate for them! LeftishBrit Jun 2016 #79

+1,000,000 ... 000 HuckleB Jun 2016 #111

I lived in the UK before the EU. Boudica the Lyoness Jun 2016 #62

It was never totally 'lovely' and it's not a 'shit hole' now LeftishBrit Jun 2016 #88

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #98

So did I, and still do in fact TubbersUK Jun 2016 #153

It always is and always will be. lovemydog Jun 2016 #168

+1 n/t TubbersUK Jun 2016 #171

Me too and I totally disagree with you. truebrit71 Jun 2016 #223

World War I, World War II . .... reACTIONary Jun 2016 #78

You mean when it was Great Britain and had an empire? Sorry, that's long gone. brush Jun 2016 #83

So is America. GliderGuider Jun 2016 #67

The second most popular search time on Google UK yesterday? matt819 Jun 2016 #24

What was the first? whathehell Jun 2016 #193

Our daughter's take on the vote Thirties Child Jun 2016 #29

Stupid sells. Really stupid buys it in large quantities TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #32

Spot on. DCBob Jun 2016 #33

Preach it, STC! I'm with you 100%. eom BlueCaliDem Jun 2016 #34

Sadly there is a lot of overlap between some elements of the populist Left and populist Right. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #36

Well said. nt sufrommich Jun 2016 #69

hear here uponit7771 Jun 2016 #91

A-friggin'-men, Odin. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #169

This post says it all. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #215

This is the danger of uninformed voters. Had the leave crew been pressed for specifics, I doubt Laser102 Jun 2016 #38

Yep TubbersUK Jun 2016 #39

Agree with you, OP SCantiGOP Jun 2016 #41

Thanks for posting lillypaddle Jun 2016 #44

K&R....this will lead to "Great Britain" becoming "Little England". nt pkdu Jun 2016 #47

Thank you!!! LeftishBrit Jun 2016 #49

You've summed it up there n/t TubbersUK Jun 2016 #103

Yup. Got it in one. truebrit71 Jun 2016 #225

The lesson here is to invest in public education Android3.14 Jun 2016 #50

That's why I don't even post on this topic Gman Jun 2016 #54

Thanks for saying this. Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #55

I have a very different interpretation of what happened. GliderGuider Jun 2016 #56

Your interpretation seems correct to me. n/t ljm2002 Jun 2016 #176

Aghast, is my word of choice. Ta, Stinky. Hekate Jun 2016 #58

People love to be called stupid lazy fucks IronLionZion Jun 2016 #60

Putin is probably laughing Frances Jun 2016 #61

Connecting those particular dots is very much a part of this story Stinky The Clown Jun 2016 #151

I agree rockfordfile Jun 2016 #64

Seems clear to me that the austerity politics of the Eurozone motivated many people Akamai Jun 2016 #65

The UK's leading political parties are independently wedded to austerity. Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #71

+ 10000000000 TubbersUK Jun 2016 #128

IMO a big cause of this is the disproportionate influence of Germany on EU economic policy. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #96

That has certainly been a large part of Paul Krugman's Akamai Jun 2016 #112

The UK Conservatives TubbersUK Jun 2016 #126

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #72

I have been saying this for a while now. The open border policy of the EU was just the last straw. modem77 Jun 2016 #85

Older people "lazy ignorant fucks" voted to leave because we remember. Boudica the Lyoness Jun 2016 #82

Nice meander down nostalgia lane. This "Mary Poppins" Britain did not disappear under EU influence. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #93

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #101

No, but six months gives you a pretty accurate view of the lay of the land. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #107

A little over-the-top, I think, Boudica (n/t) PJMcK Jun 2016 #159

LOL - Mary Poppins Britain TubbersUK Jun 2016 #139

The wrong-headed nostalgia sounded pretty sincere. I don't believe the poster Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #144

"It's just struck me, maybe it was satire ?" Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #145

It reads remarkably well in a Tony Hancock voice (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #187

Oh, it does .......brilliant n/t TubbersUK Jun 2016 #188

I never lived there... Paka Jun 2016 #196

This is a prime example of people voting against the best interest, why did UK vote for nearly... uponit7771 Jun 2016 #94

If you expect to live in a shit then you will live in a shit hole. Boudica the Lyoness Jun 2016 #102

The UK is not a shit-hole n/t TubbersUK Jun 2016 #164

Your nostalgia is touching, especially coming from an ex-pat. Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #95

Not if people like me ran it. Boudica the Lyoness Jun 2016 #104

Then maybe you should have stayed rather than moving abroad, huh? Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #110

The irony of an ex-pat voting for a gauzy dream England that hasn't existed for decades. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #127

I know. Seriously unbelievable. auntpurl Jun 2016 #173

That hasn't ever really existed at all! LeftishBrit Jun 2016 #249

I still remember the bemused reactions of the Brits when, during my first visit back in the late Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #250

Your post is the definition of rose-tinted nostalgia glasses. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #99

No Jim Crow in England. Boudica the Lyoness Jun 2016 #106

You don't live here. You don't get to say "we". Spider Jerusalem Jun 2016 #132

Boom! Mic drop! Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #152

AMEN auntpurl Jun 2016 #174

I'd question or at least research it treestar Jun 2016 #238

Oh, good lord. Hissyspit Jun 2016 #150

Jesus wept. auntpurl Jun 2016 #190

What a load of bollocks... truebrit71 Jun 2016 #222

Perfect response to that load of crap :) n/t TubbersUK Jun 2016 #226

Why is leaving school at 14-15 a good thing? treestar Jun 2016 #237

People wouldn't have had to sacrifice their lives in the trenches if there'd been no wars LeftishBrit Jun 2016 #248

Global International Capitalists Won bucolic_frolic Jun 2016 #86

I have been in the UK the last couple weeks, and my British friends and colleagues here Vattel Jun 2016 #92

Yes, cognitive disconnect is very upsetting, I hope you get over it soon. nt bemildred Jun 2016 #113

It's not cognitive dissonance to be disgusted that some here want to side with the far-right UK Hissyspit Jun 2016 #148

considering that many of the people who voted for it, at least in what I am reading, didn't actually niyad Jun 2016 #114

"...the outright LIES that the people promoting this vote said..." Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #134

somebody should have reminded these people of an old adage: "if something sounds too good to be niyad Jun 2016 #135

Hell Hath Frozen Over ConservativeDemocrat Jun 2016 #115

Pardon me. Stinky The Clown Jun 2016 #154

Being confused, I usually say nothing. But I'm not getting what you're saying about what ancianita Jun 2016 #117

The "leave" videos over at You Tube were slick beyond belief Warpy Jun 2016 #120

"Anyone who has seen a mob in action is frightened by the prospect." Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #130

Turnout was low due to the weather.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2016 #131

Is a re-vote possible? mwrguy Jun 2016 #138

There are already over 1,000,000 signatures on a petition to do just that. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #157

2.3mil now nt auntpurl Jun 2016 #178

Amazing...I've heard this phenomenon called "REGREXIT". LOL! Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #179

You can follow along with the petition votes here: auntpurl Jun 2016 #180

Hey, this looks REALLY interesting. Ta, as our beloved Brits say. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #182

Thanks for the link. Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #202

When my spouse signed last night, it was just over 200000 auntpurl Jun 2016 #204

2,690,870 now! Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #205

Only when it goes against the will of the banks. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2016 #162

Yup, you already know if the vote went the other way it would be the "the people have spoken TheKentuckian Jun 2016 #245

I look upon it as a hijacking.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2016 #251

Fair assessment TheKentuckian Jun 2016 #256

I did a calculation; the weather made little difference compared to the margin Leave won by muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #189

Try it again in 8 years. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2016 #192

If you know so much, who was the guy who fucked a pig? And did the pig figure in any of this? Teamster Jeff Jun 2016 #133

Ask LBJ Stinky The Clown Jun 2016 #156

I deny everything Teamster Jeff Jun 2016 #160

Yes, it did LeftishBrit Jun 2016 #247

Ouch! Teamster Jeff Jun 2016 #254

How dare people have varying opinions! NobodyHere Jun 2016 #136

You can have any opinion you wish, but you can't have your own set of facts. Stinky The Clown Jun 2016 #137

Every CEO was for Remain. former9thward Jun 2016 #172

I didn't leave it out. Stinky The Clown Jun 2016 #177

You are absolutely hitting it out of the park in this thread. auntpurl Jun 2016 #183

Wrong. Hissyspit Jun 2016 #155

Agreed. People here defending a referendum set up by a right-wing PM to appease the Hissyspit Jun 2016 #142

Spot on. Good post. auntpurl Jun 2016 #181

K&R mcar Jun 2016 #147

K&R... spanone Jun 2016 #158

Absofuckinglutely spot on. I just posted another thread about this, should have read yours first. auntpurl Jun 2016 #166

Here's the thing about "populism" ... ljm2002 Jun 2016 #170

For what it's worth: TubbersUK Jun 2016 #203

Thanks for the insights... ljm2002 Jun 2016 #240

After listening to this again, I wonder Wernothelpless Jun 2016 #184

I'm afraid I just don't go along with the idea seabeckind Jun 2016 #186

Why am I not surprised? Stinky The Clown Jun 2016 #201

Gee, I don't know. seabeckind Jun 2016 #212

How big a margin would it take to believe it? nt fleabiscuit Jun 2016 #208

Irrelevant deflection. seabeckind Jun 2016 #211

K & R SunSeeker Jun 2016 #199

Trump loves backruptcy, so no wonder he loves Brexit. Watchingh money disappear, such fun! L. Coyote Jun 2016 #206

As I read somewhere on DU today: OrwellwasRight Jun 2016 #207

Wow. Stinky The Clown Jun 2016 #209

Try reading: OrwellwasRight Jun 2016 #210

Seriously Stinky The Clown Jun 2016 #218

You're hilarious. OrwellwasRight Jun 2016 #220

Thanks. Stinky The Clown Jun 2016 #224

Spot On. Agony Jun 2016 #257

Oh no some people have different opinions than me, how dare they!? romanic Jun 2016 #214

If you don't know where you are going, you might wind up someplace else. ~ Yogi Berra fleabiscuit Jun 2016 #216

He people weren't suckered into racism, xenophobia, etc AllTooEasy Jun 2016 #217

While I don't disagree there was definitely some of that Veruca Salt Jun 2016 #246

So many tin ears: calling those who want anything but the status quo BOTH racists and duped. Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #233

Kicked and recommended. Spot on analysis. n/t Stand and Fight Jun 2016 #234

Referendums ARE real demoracy roomtomove Jun 2016 #242

Not impressed with the crude lingo in this post . . FairWinds Jun 2016 #243

Wow. Where to start? Stinky The Clown Jun 2016 #244

Well Mr. Stink . . FairWinds Jun 2016 #253

Agree almost completely. The only reason I say 'almost' is that it was a vote against 'the elites' vintx Jun 2016 #252