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OrwellwasRight

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34. That's not correct.
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 06:24 PM
Jun 2016

Last edited Sat Jun 25, 2016, 07:20 PM - Edit history (1)

Progressivism and neoliberalism are not compatible. They are alternative economic ideologies. Progressivism is about raising wages, investing in education and infrastructure, strong and wide safety nets, social insurance and social solutions. Progressivism is essentially the New Deal. It is Keynesianism.

Neoliberalism is about lowering taxes, deregulating, introducing "labor market flexibilities" that make it easier to fire people in Europe and bust unions in the US, "free trade," gutting and privatizing the public sector, and taking away the social safety net. Neoliberalism is essentially the George W. Bush economy. It is the Washington Consensus. It is Milton Friedman. It is "you're on your own."

http://www.globalexchange.org/resources/econ101/neoliberalismdefined

http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=376

It's become a replacement for the word "establishment" Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2016 #1
Neoliberalism was an anti-mercantilist Hortensis Jun 2016 #61
Asked an OP earlier what he meant by "neoliberal" cuz didn't makes sense George Eliot Jun 2016 #72
Today's neoliberalism equates to EXTREMIST CONSERVATISM Hortensis Jun 2016 #79
she won the primary swhisper1 Jun 2016 #2
What do you mean "catapulted to the fore"? Scootaloo Jun 2016 #3
Nice try Stinky The Clown Jun 2016 #6
I'm sorry, what? Scootaloo Jun 2016 #9
Because it is. Hekate Jun 2016 #73
Maybe it's just that some of you are just now noticing other people talking about it? Scootaloo Jun 2016 #76
"Fascist" became old and overused. NuclearDem Jun 2016 #4
^^^YES^^^ Stinky The Clown Jun 2016 #13
Corporatist, establishment...there had to be a third way BeyondGeography Jun 2016 #31
Ding ding ding... quickesst Jun 2016 #60
And there it is. auntpurl Jun 2016 #62
It's code for "The Unpure". nt sufrommich Jun 2016 #5
Exactly shenmue Jun 2016 #21
Many people use it as a derogatory diss du jour to describe a pol without knowing what it really brush Jun 2016 #66
Because those ideas have been put into place worldwide, some places more, some places less Warpy Jun 2016 #7
^^^this^^^ eom Purveyor Jun 2016 #28
+1000 OrwellwasRight Jun 2016 #33
And it is clear also who objects to the term. alarimer Jun 2016 #49
Exactly. nt laundry_queen Jun 2016 #57
I've only ever seen it here, and only recently Hekate Jun 2016 #75
the complexity explained a little here... ctaylors6 Jun 2016 #69
Spot on. 840high Jun 2016 #70
It's a way to divide us, which is precisely antithetical to what being progressive is about. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #8
That's not correct. OrwellwasRight Jun 2016 #34
Thank you for the info. I'll read the links. It kind of came up on us libdem4life Jun 2016 #37
The Clinton platform is not, by those words, neoliberal. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #38
Did i say it was? OrwellwasRight Jun 2016 #45
You, no. But many here have. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #50
even a dumb dog will SoLeftIAmRight Jun 2016 #78
Quite. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #46
Good post. nt laundry_queen Jun 2016 #58
Thank you! OrwellwasRight Jun 2016 #68
it's moving public $$ to private: think Soc Sec, charter schools, pensions George Eliot Jun 2016 #74
Anybody who uses that term against a fellow DUer is engaging in a personal attack. MohRokTah Jun 2016 #10
Only if you view neoliberalism as a bad thing JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #29
oh yeah. Repealing Glass-Steagall turned out Ilsa Jun 2016 #36
Exactly. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #41
And here we go again...Same Play, Second Act. libdem4life Jun 2016 #39
I'm curious why you equate "Neoliberalism" with a "personal attack" NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #53
It is a game for a few here, they take a term they find offensive and marginalize it Rex Jun 2016 #59
i dunno MFM008 Jun 2016 #11
Not every one knows the meaning. Springslips Jun 2016 #12
Agreed. See Post 4 by NuclearDem, above. Stinky The Clown Jun 2016 #16
That which the US calls 'neoconservative' most of the world calls 'neoliberal'. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #14
I know what it means Stinky The Clown Jun 2016 #19
My comment was not intended to be an exact definition of the term but a fun way to point out why Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #22
wrong. not same arendt Jun 2016 #24
No. Term invented by Hayek in the 40s arendt Jun 2016 #30
I've written diaries using and explaining the term for tears. Just because YOU just noticed the term arendt Jun 2016 #32
Just because YOU used the term for a year is no reason I should have seen it. Stinky The Clown Jun 2016 #52
"DU Sect"? OrwellwasRight Jun 2016 #35
I have repeatedly used the term neo-liberal at DU in the past year and PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #43
"To the fore" where? Do you mean here? Or elsewhere? JHB Jun 2016 #15
I guess jehop61 Jun 2016 #17
ignorance is not funny arendt Jun 2016 #25
Well said...especially that last paragraph. libdem4life Jun 2016 #40
Republican was taken nt sarisataka Jun 2016 #18
lulz Rex Jun 2016 #20
A related article. CentralMass Jun 2016 #23
This ^^^^^ arendt Jun 2016 #26
Catapulted to where? Do you mean here, Europe, the entire globe, or on DU? countryjake Jun 2016 #27
It's a term the populist left use to conflate the establishment left and the establishment right. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2016 #42
conflate isn't the word you're looking for here. nashville_brook Jun 2016 #51
Very well said. auntpurl Jun 2016 #63
So, it appears HRC is a Neo-liberal. libdem4life Jun 2016 #44
On DU, it seems to commonly mean "anyone to the right of me" TwilightZone Jun 2016 #47
Many of the people who use the term lapucelle Jun 2016 #48
Because a lot Hillary supporters and runaway hero Jun 2016 #54
Your logic kinda pretzeled me. Stinky The Clown Jun 2016 #55
Trump is populist, Hillary (to some) is neo liberal runaway hero Jun 2016 #56
Seemed to appear as a smear word the last few days before GE mode kicked in. emulatorloo Jun 2016 #64
That's what I'm thinking, too. Plus, there was the matter of the word's usage. Stinky The Clown Jun 2016 #65
Agreed, very childish. And it was rarely used in an accurate way. emulatorloo Jun 2016 #80
It's the core LWolf Jun 2016 #67
AFAICT they wore out Third Way and Turd Way as all-purpose insults and had to move on.... Hekate Jun 2016 #71
A neo-liberal is a Democrat who cares about the stock market ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #77
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