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Straw Man

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27. No complaint.

Sat Jun 25, 2016, 11:26 PM

Jun 2016

I would have no complaint going through a background check to obtain an ammunition purchase license.

How would you feel about going through that background check each and every time you buy ammo, and having the type and amount of ammo you purchased entered in a database and flagged for further investigation if it is deemed "suspiciously large"?

That's what Gov. Cuomo tried to pass in New York. It actually did pass, but when the federal government told him "No, Andrew, you can't use the NICS system to do your ammo checks -- we're busy enough as it is," and realistic cost estimates started to come in on establishing and administering the database at the state level, the measure was unceremoniously shelved. Not repealed, but shelved.

Security theater at its finest.

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Background Checks For Ammo? Could Become Law in California [View all] KamaAina Jun 2016 OP

K&R! DemonGoddess Jun 2016 #1

Are they funding the purchase of the "magazine clips"? pipoman Jun 2016 #2

Why not? I have no problem using surveillance on people into lethal weapons. Hoyt Jun 2016 #3

Well I know you don"t pipoman Jun 2016 #4

When it's directed at gun abusers -- you are correct. Hoyt Jun 2016 #7

You support illegal surveillance of gun owners? Marengo Jun 2016 #14

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #19

Most gun OWNERS are callous and racist? Just so we are clear, I asked if you supported ILLEGAL Marengo Jun 2016 #23

Do the ones who aren't racist get to sue the government? Straw Man Jun 2016 #26

At least you are honest about your hypocrisy... TipTok Jun 2016 #33

Nice. Set that precident and the next fascist will go after racial groups, or the handicapped jack_krass Jun 2016 #77

Nope. Owners are given the choice of moving them out of state or turning them. Just reading posts Jun 2016 #8

That part is probably a legal kiss of death. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #17

Except when it comes to seizure Aerows Jun 2016 #36

You're referring to civil asset forfeiture. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #40

And if someone can't prove the bullets were obtained illegally... scscholar Jun 2016 #52

I'm far more pissed about the cash Aerows Jun 2016 #58

Do you support civil asset forfeiture? NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #62

When the asset can be used to kill... scscholar Jun 2016 #66

That's all I need to know about you. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #72

They can be allowed their guns, they just can't buy avebury Jun 2016 #46

It's the requirement to turn in magazines over 10 rounds. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #57

You can't buy a damn thing Aerows Jun 2016 #59

You're not alone in anger over civil assert forfeiture. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #63

It is by all rights and reason Aerows Jun 2016 #73

Most excellent! Initech Jun 2016 #5

Regulation of ammunition is entirely constitutional. roamer65 Jun 2016 #6

No complaint. Straw Man Jun 2016 #27

I have no problem with it. roamer65 Jun 2016 #49

So tell me,. how many times have you had a Federal background check to buy s six pack? oneshooter Jun 2016 #53

Times were that you couldn't buy a beer in the United States. Period. roamer65 Jun 2016 #64

If you are refering to prohibition , beer wasn't outlawed, only hard liquor. oneshooter Jun 2016 #67

The sale, manufacture and transportation of beer was illegal under the Volstead Act. roamer65 Jun 2016 #69

They will if they are federal. roamer65 Jun 2016 #71

I'd enter this dust up Aerows Jun 2016 #75

Dry counties still exist, too Aerows Jun 2016 #74

Damn straight. roamer65 Jun 2016 #90

I do. The devil is in the details. Straw Man Jun 2016 #97

ammunition falls under the 2nd amendment melm00se Jun 2016 #61

The banning of it, yes. The regulation of it, no. roamer65 Jun 2016 #68

So it starts, Hawaii... sheshe2 Jun 2016 #9

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #34

Sorry ... Straw Man Jun 2016 #37

So did mine. nt Mojorabbit Jun 2016 #39

+1 jack_krass Jun 2016 #81

Mine too Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #83

My irony meter goes to "11"... appal_jack Jun 2016 #91

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #82

How long was Bernie there? sheshe2 Jun 2016 #88

Longer than some, not as long as others Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #89

So sorry I misunderstood. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #94

Wow! A proposal that actually addresses a real problem! Recursion Jun 2016 #10

It's easier to buy bullets than Sudafed Nevernose Jun 2016 #11

Extra minute? Straw Man Jun 2016 #28

Can someone PLEASE make a video of an AR-15 knockoff spraying Sudafed around a room? KamaAina Jun 2016 #41

Depending on the wording, the entire thing may be unconstitutional. MohRokTah Jun 2016 #12

I agree, even Connecticut grandfathered in the existing property. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #16

Hopefully the voters will tell them to stuff it. ileus Jun 2016 #13

Chris Rock said in his stand up Chevy Jun 2016 #15

Which is just as illegal... TipTok Jun 2016 #35

K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Jun 2016 #18

K & R SunSeeker Jun 2016 #20

Absolutely great! Hats off to them! Wonderful! Akamai Jun 2016 #21

I've been saying this for years. You can have your murder enablers, so long as the ammo is Feeling the Bern Jun 2016 #22

Brown will veto. Socal31 Jun 2016 #24

Nope. It's a ballot referendum. KamaAina Jun 2016 #42

Another reason not to stay home Politicalboi Jun 2016 #25

I expect we'll be seeing a lot of Californa plates at BassPro here (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jun 2016 #29

I can already see the AZ and NV stores writing up their orders. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #43

Arizona and Nevada thank CA for your contributions to their sales tax revenues nt Ex Lurker Jun 2016 #30

Yep HDSam Jun 2016 #38

What does it say sarisataka Jun 2016 #31

Not to mention DustyJoe Jun 2016 #32

Probably true GummyBearz Jun 2016 #55

Straw purchasers...it's not like a guy, who illegally owns a gun, is going to Press Virginia Jun 2016 #80

Its difficult to see how this might prevent a single death. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #44

but it will make people feel good about themselves Press Virginia Jun 2016 #76

Could be an interesting way around the 2nd Amendment. avebury Jun 2016 #45

Specious argument LongtimeAZDem Jun 2016 #47

But they are not banning the purchse of ammunition. avebury Jun 2016 #48

I wasn't commenting on the propsed Califonrnia legislation, LongtimeAZDem Jun 2016 #51

a guy illegally possessing a gun will just use a straw purchaser Press Virginia Jun 2016 #78

A tax on ink was ruled unconstitutional Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #92

Of course you can't ban it. roamer65 Jun 2016 #50

Great! Kick! Squinch Jun 2016 #54

It doesn't go far enough Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #56

Make it a felony to import unlicensed ammunition into the state mwrguy Jun 2016 #60

Not on the first offense. roamer65 Jun 2016 #65

OK mwrguy Jun 2016 #79

But...but...but...Freedumb!!@22 jpak Jun 2016 #70

I'd go further, CA. roamer65 Jun 2016 #84

I have several firearms that are in calibers no longer produced. oneshooter Jun 2016 #99

Good, that will stop all firearms deaths Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #85

So a background check system that madville Jun 2016 #86

They'll just get a friend or relative to buy it for them Press Virginia Jun 2016 #87

Of course the law doesn't allow NICS to be used for ammunition Lee-Lee Jun 2016 #93

They should handle it like the CPL permitting process. roamer65 Jun 2016 #95

That woukd cost a whole lot of money to say the least Lee-Lee Jun 2016 #98

What about people who create their own rounds from spent casings? jack_krass Jun 2016 #96