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YoungDemCA

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63. Fact: We live in a globalized world and economy.

Sun Jun 26, 2016, 01:40 AM

Jun 2016

Fact: China is asserting more and more of their influence in the Pacific.

Fact: If the U.S. doesn't lead the way in the Pacific, China certainly is more than happy to take our place.

Fact: The Trans-Pacific Partnership has been the product of years of delicate, politically sensitive negotiations and compromises between many countries - all with their own priorities and agendas.

Fact: The TPP has had the input of a wide variety of experts and stakeholders.

I suppose rather than facing the reality of the 21st century economy and actually LEADING that economy, we all can stick our heads in the sand like petulant children who are upset that it isn't 1960 anymore.

Let's not be economic illiterates. Lord knows there are more than enough of those in this country.

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So the Platform Comittee has endorsed the TPP [View all] cali Jun 2016 OP

OUTSTANDING!!! MohRokTah Jun 2016 #1

It's a truly flawed document. I've spent a lot of time cali Jun 2016 #2

I've spent a lot of time reading it, too. MohRokTah Jun 2016 #4

From what you just wrote I take it that you R. Daneel Olivaw Jun 2016 #10

I approve of good legislation MohRokTah Jun 2016 #11

Yep and the unions object as does Doctors Without Borders. But the Big Corporations love it rhett o rick Jun 2016 #28

But it's "good" legislation... R. Daneel Olivaw Jun 2016 #45

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #46

The TPP is a good treaty and should be immediately ratified. MohRokTah Jun 2016 #47

I believe that you are being disingenuous... R. Daneel Olivaw Jun 2016 #64

You are free to believe that. MohRokTah Jun 2016 #65

The basics of the document go all the way back to 1959. There were lots of groups Hoyt Jun 2016 #12

Are you saying that the Corporate written TPP will help the 99%? No one that rhett o rick Jun 2016 #29

Then you can tell me why, for instance, you support Chapter 18 cali Jun 2016 #13

Having worked with IP my entire life, and owning a fair bit myself, Chapter 18 is the most important MohRokTah Jun 2016 #15

So what, specifically, in it, do you think is good? cali Jun 2016 #18

Did you know that ALL of the advisors on these issues were from the industry cali Jun 2016 #19

Well that's certainly who I would turn to for input on IP in international treaties. MohRokTah Jun 2016 #48

I agree. Like just about every other document, treaty, agreement, contract, etc., the entire.... George II Jun 2016 #23

The extension of drug patents will harm access to generic drugs cali Jun 2016 #36

If you notice those that oppose the agreement have comprehensive posts about specifics rhett o rick Jun 2016 #49

But those specifics are based on the opinions of others, and most of those others have.... George II Jun 2016 #54

The point is there is a ton of written opinion with specifics against the TPP but little or rhett o rick Jun 2016 #59

That's funny greiner3 Jun 2016 #41

If it lacks enforcement then we really have nothing to worry about, do we? George II Jun 2016 #55

that makes no sense whatsoever. It lacks meaningful enforcement provisions for cali Jun 2016 #57

No sense? George II Jun 2016 #60

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #3

As Trump founders in the polls EL34x4 Jun 2016 #38

+ 1 Scientific Jun 2016 #52

That doesn't sound like an endorsement. It's just not a flat opposition. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #5

It is a backhanded endorsement. cali Jun 2016 #7

Exactly. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #9

Leaving opposition out of the platform and endorsing it are two different things. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #6

" It also reaffirmed that Democrats want any trade deal "to protect workers and the environment." " Teamster Jeff Jun 2016 #8

Yeah, those darn things included in nearly every trade agreement worldwide since 1959 are Hoyt Jun 2016 #14

Who said they are hard to understand? Teamster Jeff Jun 2016 #16

Thank you! Snarkoleptic Jun 2016 #25

In those five cases only one company prevailed and in one there was an out of court settlement.... George II Jun 2016 #30

Just a complete waste of money and resources G_j Jun 2016 #34

so you think this is OK? NJCher Jun 2016 #35

Do I think Gallo suing is OK? Obviously it's acceptable under Canadian law to sue, but.... George II Jun 2016 #62

Corporations are just getting started Teamster Jeff Jun 2016 #53

Earlier today, I read a piece reporting that Elijah Cummings did not want the party patform DonViejo Jun 2016 #17

My own opinion of TPP 90-percent Jun 2016 #20

And now she'll have to walk (run) that one back greiner3 Jun 2016 #42

More: cali Jun 2016 #21

Technical language to hide a big lie. It won't stand the light of day and should not be passed.QED Ford_Prefect Jun 2016 #22

It's not an endorsement, it essentially is a rejection of a proposal to oppose it. George II Jun 2016 #24

...and when it does get endorsed, you will no doubt enthusiastically approve. Lucky Luciano Jun 2016 #50

Good, we are not narrow minded isolationists RB TexLa Jun 2016 #26

Trans-Pacific Partnership Supporters Pin Hopes on Lame-Duck Vote think Jun 2016 #27

Misleading headline. SunSeeker Jun 2016 #31

TPP and ISDS process Arizona Roadrunner Jun 2016 #32

"there will be charges of treason...." 90-percent Jun 2016 #44

That's not an endorsement. Adrahil Jun 2016 #33

Yeah, just ask Bernie supporters about his endorsement of Hillary... beastie boy Jun 2016 #43

outstandingly ______ that is stupidicus Jun 2016 #37

+1. Well said. (N/T) Old Crow Jun 2016 #40

So predictable. AtomicKitten Jun 2016 #39

Actually it did not, not even a in a back handed way. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #51

the right turn is beginning. hobbit709 Jun 2016 #56

Yes. LWolf Jun 2016 #61

The TPP is horrible and disgusting. Owl Jun 2016 #58

Fact: We live in a globalized world and economy. YoungDemCA Jun 2016 #63