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In reply to the discussion: The Brexit Rejection of Neoliberal Tyranny [View all]stupidicus
(2,570 posts)42. of course, they all are, unlike you eh
and you can't refute a claim I didn't make.
CONverts coming to their defense with insistence and an unbreakable focus on, the proximate cause for the vote results being predominantly the ugliness of white Christian on brown Muslim bigotry/racism, as opposed to their fingerprints being all over the EU murder weapon.
that "predominantly" was applied solely to the opinions conveyed by the "the islamophobes did it" crowd, and that's it. The ME warmongering issue impinges largely upon the immigration issue alone, and neither I, Pilger, nor Hudson think or have claimed that the immigration issue is the only neoliberal policy past or present
A Nineteenth Century contempt for countries and peoples, depending on their degree of colonial usefulness, remains a centerpiece of modern globalization, with its perverse socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor: its freedom for capital and denial of freedom to labor; its perfidious politicians and politicized civil servants.
in need of an indictment.
The neoliberal warmongering/nation building is inextricably intertwined with just about everything under the sun of the neoliberal world and Brexit sort, and your declarations about those two who seem to be making exactly that case in the tying of the immigration issue from the ME to the vote result
Is he lying here?
But the left wing was just as vocal, and the left wing was saying, why are these immigrants coming here? Theyre coming here because of Europes support of NATO, and NATOs war thats bombing the near East, that is destabilizing the whole Near East, and causing a flight of refugees not only from Syria but also from Ukraine. In England, many of the so-called Polish plumbers that came years ago have now gone back to Poland, because that countrys recovered.
and are you denying this
The problem began in Libya. Once Hillary pushed Obama to destroy Libya and wipe out the stable government there, she wiped out the arms--and Libya was a very heavily armed country. She turned over the arms to ISIS, to Al-Nusra, and Al-Qaeda. And Al-Qaeda used these arms under U.S. organization to attack Syria and Iraq. Now, the Syrian population, the Iraqi population, have no choice but to either emigrate or get killed.
or insinuating that he's claiming that she deliberately and willfully gave them arms to make up with besmirchments what you lack in arguments? You're just disagreeing here, and not refuting a damn thing. That's exactly what happened with the arms and the cause for the exodus.
Hudson and Pilger both appear to be arguing that the ME warmongering served as the catalyst/cause for the immigration issue
HUDSON: Its a combination. The right wing was, indeed, pushing the immigrant issue, saying wait a minute, theyre threatening our jobs. But the left wing was just as vocal, and the left wing was saying, why are these immigrants coming here? Theyre coming here because of Europes support of NATO, and NATOs war thats bombing the near East, that is destabilizing the whole Near East, and causing a flight of refugees not only from Syria but also from Ukraine. In England, many of the so-called Polish plumbers that came years ago have now gone back to Poland, because that countrys recovered.
becoming the game changer in the vote. You appear to be arguing that the ME fiascos had no role at all of any discernable size or consequence.
Sorry, I'll go with the big boys and ignore the obscure internet warrior
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For sure neoliberalism banking explosion, due to lax regulations on financial instruments,
applegrove
Jun 2016
#2
Oh my god. It is PNAC all over again.... the movement that dare not speaketh its name.
applegrove
Jun 2016
#4
That's ok, your stances on these issues has the same effect on the rest of us.
Dustlawyer
Jun 2016
#53
The EU should have been a little less authoritative toward Greece, instead they kicked Greece
Rex
Jun 2016
#5
Your first sentence is highly disputable. The immigration is primarily from Eastern Europe
muriel_volestrangler
Jun 2016
#15
No, it hasn't been about Muslims. Perhaps you saw the word 'immigrants' (and sometimes 'Trump')
muriel_volestrangler
Jun 2016
#22
It might well have had the same outcome without the Middle Eastern turmoil
muriel_volestrangler
Jun 2016
#34
Hudson doesn't even live here. He's riding his own hobbyhorse far worse than Pilger
muriel_volestrangler
Jun 2016
#38
One of your 'big boys' is saying Hillary armed ISIS, and is attacking Obama
muriel_volestrangler
Jun 2016
#47
I'm a god-damned radical socialist and even I have been called a neo-liberal...
Odin2005
Jun 2016
#48
John Oliver's 15 minute takedown of Brexit is not to be missed. Murdoch soppressed it...
Hekate
Jun 2016
#27
The Conservatives in the UK were working with Europe to try and get brilliant and comprehensive
applegrove
Jun 2016
#40
Wow, I think you literally hit every square of the nouveau-gauche buzzword bingo card there
Recursion
Jun 2016
#44
EU is just big government. They made some unpopular decisions in the past 3 years so Britain left.
craigmatic
Jun 2016
#45
IF (a BIG IF) Brits voted Leave to reject Neoliberal Tyranny, they ain't seen nothing yet. Boris
pampango
Jun 2016
#46
Oh, for God's sake! Britain is more neoliberal than the rest of the EU!!!!!!!!!!!!
DetlefK
Jun 2016
#55
What is the objective and peer-reviewed evidence that leads you to this faith-based premise?
LanternWaste
Jun 2016
#56