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In reply to the discussion: ONE LAST TIME: Brexit, for the VAST MAJORITY of Leave voters, was about xenophobia [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)Old people who are angry at all the "foreigners" in their "green and pleasant land" were the ones who voted LEAVE. When interviewed on the street, they were saying things like
"Good-I'm tired of people who can't even say HELLO in English come here and taking all our services" and "We are tired of being pushed round by the foreigners," and "Well, they're not like us, are they? They simply can't get along here, they need to go..." I was watching the BBC for aftermath coverage, and that is how it played out.
The Millenials voted overwhelmingly to stay the course--in essence, their gripe is that the OLD people made a decision that the YOUNG people are going to have to live with forever. That's why there's such a push for a do-over.
Here: http://www.vox.com/2016/6/24/12025954/brexit-young-voters-remain
Brexit is a middle finger from the baby boomers to young people like me
by Jack Lennard on June 24, 2016
Lets look at the voter demographics. The "Leave" vote was overwhelmingly carried by those over the age of 65, whereas according to pre-vote polling, 72 percent of those who were aged 18 to 24 favored "Remain." Why does this matter? Surely, in a referendum, every vote is equal, and the will of the people carries regardless of the demographic?
Well, there is some truth to that. But that doesnt mean every UK voter will suffer the same consequences.
The process of the UK leaving the European Union would not be complete until late 2018 at the very earliest, assuming Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty is triggered when a new prime minister is appointed in the autumn of this year. Even then, thats just the basic settlement trade deals and movement regulations could take decades to hammer out.
My generation will not enjoy the free movement to 27 different countries and the workers rights that rescued Britain from the "sick man of Europe" era of the 1970s
Despite young people having to live with the decision of the referendum for an average of 69 years, it has been decided for them by people who will only have to live with it for an average of 16 years. Put simply: The long-term effects of Brexit will not be felt by those who overwhelmingly voted for it. Because they will be dead...
http://time.com/4381878/brexit-generation-gap-older-younger-voters/
The U.K.s Old Decided for the Young in the Brexit Vote
Simon Shuster / Margate @shustry June 24, 2016
Polls showed that British pensioners were about three times more likely than the youngest voters to want a permanent break with the E.U.It took Gus Sharpe about two seconds to make up his mind on the question that tortured his country for months: Should the U.K. remain a member of the European Union or not? To people my age its pretty obvious, says the 19-year-old, whose mop of curly hair makes him look even younger. We stay.
What bothered him about the question was the governments decision to put it to a vote in the first placenot just a survey to assess the public mood but an all but binding referendum to decide whether all British citizens would be E.U. citizens or not. Thats such a personal decision, says Sharpe.
Growing up in the seaside town of Margate, his identity as an Englishman was always intertwined with his sense of being a European. Besides, his E.U. passport has been incredibly valuable to him. It ensures a lifetime of freedom to travel and work in any of the unions 28 member states, each with its own culture to explore, its own charms and opportunities. So my generation has the most at stake in losing that, he says.
But it wasnt Sharpes generation that decided. Across the U.K., polls showed that only about 19% of people between the ages of 18 and 24 supported a British exitthe Brexitfrom the E.U. Among pensioners, who came of age before the E.U. was created, a staggering 59% wanted their country to leave. And when all of the roughly 33 million ballots were counted on Friday morning, the position favored by most pensioners won out by a margin of around 1.3 million votes.
See? I am not talking out of turn, here--this IS how it went down. It's very unfortunate.