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In reply to the discussion: ONE LAST TIME: Brexit, for the VAST MAJORITY of Leave voters, was about xenophobia [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)221. You might want to tell NPR how much you disapprove, too.
They've got the same POV:
http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2016/06/25/483362200/brexit-whats-race-got-to-do-with-it
The campaign to get the U.K. to leave the EU (also known as the "Leave" campaign) was spearheaded by the right-wing, populist UK Independence Party, or UKIP. The party, led by Member in the European Parliament Nigel Farage, says that the EU "means the end of the UK as an independent, self-governing nation with its own government and its own borders."
For months, UKIP has fought for the United Kingdom's independence from the EU some say by capitalizing on racially charged animus toward immigrants. In the Washington Post, writer Anyusha Rose points to the Leave campaign as evidence that in the U.K., "racism is no longer racism it's legitimate opinion."
Areeq Chowdhury, a British writer and the founder of WebRoots Democracy, said last week that it's "important we remember that this is a referendum that has only been made possible due to a long, hard-fought campaign by those on the far-right and political movements ridden with allegations of bigotry, xenophobia, and racism." He continues:
"
Nigel Farage the UKIP leader who once said that his party 'would never win the n-gger vote,' refers to Chinese takeaways as 'a chinky,' and said people would feel 'concerned' to live next to Romanians is the man who should take a significant chunk of the credit for us having this referendum. It was his party's success in the European Parliament elections, as well as defections which he brokered from the Conservative Party, which has led us to this point today."
Zack Beauchamp over at Vox writes that the UKIP has spent the past 10 years "focusing, obsessively, on the threat from immigrants, from both inside the EU and out."
Washington Post is saying the same thing:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/25/the-uncomfortable-question-was-the-brexit-vote-based-on-racism/
The uncomfortable question: Was the Brexit vote based on racism?
...In the run up to the E.U. referendum, the official "leave" campaign initially tried to focus on sovereignty and economic issues. However, polls clearly showed that immigration was one of the most, if not the most, important factor for voters. Immigration is by far the best issue for the Leave campaign, Freddie Sayers, editor in chief of the polling firm YouGov, wrote. If the coming referendum were only a decision on immigration, the Leave campaign would win by a landslide.
So gradually, Boris Johnson and other prominent faces in the campaign began to talk more negatively about immigration.
In the heated atmosphere before the election, the lines between anti-immigration rhetoric and pure racism became blurry. Just a week before the election Farage, who was not a member of the official "leave" campaign but ran his own movement, unveiled an advertising campaign that showed a crowd of refugees and migrants. Many critics noted that it resembled propaganda put out by Nazi Germany. To make matters worse, the very next day British member of Parliament Jo Cox was killed. The man alleged to have shot and stabbed Cox, a pro-"remain" campaigner and supporter of refugees, is said to have shouted "Britain first" and had links to U.S. white-supremacy groups.
Despite a backlash to this rhetoric, when voting day came around, more British citizens chose to leave the E.U. than stay. They did so against the advice of the majority of the country's politicians and many experts from around the world, who said the country's political and economic standing would be deeply hurt. Some experts suggest the explanation for that decision has to at least partly be put down to racism and xenophobia.
There isnt anything subtle about this sort of campaigning, its comparable to Nazi propaganda and just straightforwardly racist, David Gillborn, a race relations expert at the British University of Birmingham, told the Associated Press of Farage's campaigning. The fact that people could have voted for this despite the crudest representations of racism is quite astonishing......
So gradually, Boris Johnson and other prominent faces in the campaign began to talk more negatively about immigration.
In the heated atmosphere before the election, the lines between anti-immigration rhetoric and pure racism became blurry. Just a week before the election Farage, who was not a member of the official "leave" campaign but ran his own movement, unveiled an advertising campaign that showed a crowd of refugees and migrants. Many critics noted that it resembled propaganda put out by Nazi Germany. To make matters worse, the very next day British member of Parliament Jo Cox was killed. The man alleged to have shot and stabbed Cox, a pro-"remain" campaigner and supporter of refugees, is said to have shouted "Britain first" and had links to U.S. white-supremacy groups.
Despite a backlash to this rhetoric, when voting day came around, more British citizens chose to leave the E.U. than stay. They did so against the advice of the majority of the country's politicians and many experts from around the world, who said the country's political and economic standing would be deeply hurt. Some experts suggest the explanation for that decision has to at least partly be put down to racism and xenophobia.
There isnt anything subtle about this sort of campaigning, its comparable to Nazi propaganda and just straightforwardly racist, David Gillborn, a race relations expert at the British University of Birmingham, told the Associated Press of Farage's campaigning. The fact that people could have voted for this despite the crudest representations of racism is quite astonishing......
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ONE LAST TIME: Brexit, for the VAST MAJORITY of Leave voters, was about xenophobia [View all]
auntpurl
Jun 2016
OP
And this is why we don't put complicated economic policy up for a general population referendum
auntpurl
Jun 2016
#10
Your post doesn't prove your point. I see four nutter Brits with a banner and cherry-picked images.
leveymg
Jun 2016
#70
If you want to get really granular, FDI from the EU did not stop the loss of real income
leveymg
Jun 2016
#79
That issues of this sort involving National issues should not be left up to the electorate??? nt
clarice
Jun 2016
#203
How elitist is that???? I'm glad that I don't live in your world... shameful.nt
clarice
Jun 2016
#206
On Twitter last night: "Boris Johnson sacrificed a million jobs to get one". nt
auntpurl
Jun 2016
#164
Seems to me that one could appear to prove almost anything by merely presenting anecdotes.
jonno99
Jun 2016
#4
I'm simply commenting on your lack of refutation. My feelings don't enter into the matter
JonLeibowitz
Jun 2016
#18
I know. How dare someone living in the UK tell Americans what the campaign was about!
Violet_Crumble
Jun 2016
#150
Please stop refuting the "Pitchfork and Torches brigade" theories..facts and realities upset them.nt
pkdu
Jun 2016
#153
Well said. There were many reasons, and that was certainly one of them, but it was far from the main
OnDoutside
Jun 2016
#8
So how do you feel about undocumented workers in the US, (economic refugees) or
Agnosticsherbet
Jun 2016
#72
No, I'm sure that's happening but I wouldn't tar all English people with that brush, just as I
OnDoutside
Jun 2016
#107
Yes, I was really surprised with my friends as they were both well educated and well travelled
OnDoutside
Jun 2016
#115
no, I think you really believe it, but it rings hollow to us,brexit isnt a one issue conflict
larkrake
Jun 2016
#170
Nah, more like the left is against free trade because many of them are economically illiterate
YoungDemCA
Jun 2016
#143
True. And the U.K. has much less immigration than Ireland which is content with EU
pampango
Jun 2016
#24
That shocks me, I've always thought of British Parliament as having better common sense
Rex
Jun 2016
#56
I have to say, from a distance, mind you, I've been less than impressed with him.
MADem
Jun 2016
#222
I think it's too soon to say Cameron will be the most disgraced politician in UK history
Sen. Walter Sobchak
Jun 2016
#98
Because as a member of the EU, we are required to take a certain number of migrants.
auntpurl
Jun 2016
#34
Thatcherism and the austerity measures of Britain and other EU countries
The Velveteen Ocelot
Jun 2016
#104
So you're saying they never had to compete with people who weren't like them before. nt
fleabiscuit
Jun 2016
#125
Well, at least here in the US, there was a concerted effort to pit people against one another
alarimer
Jun 2016
#213
Non sequitur. They are still responsible for voting. And they face reelection. eom
fleabiscuit
Jun 2016
#126
No, but I travel there frequently, and have daily contact with many people there. I dont doubt
jack_krass
Jun 2016
#120
Look, I dont doubt that the UK ultra right has attached itself to the "leave" movement.
jack_krass
Jun 2016
#178
Are we against putting complicated economic policy up for a general population referendum?
auntpurl
Jun 2016
#65
No, I'm talking about uneducated people (that is based on polling, not my opinion)
auntpurl
Jun 2016
#73
Serious question: Do YOU know what the lie was that was admitted to the morning after the vote?
Stinky The Clown
Jun 2016
#97
If "democracy" equals racist bullshit convincing the public to vote against their own interests
YoungDemCA
Jun 2016
#144
LOL! Is the Third Way international now?? I guess we should have known, considering that they are
Number23
Jun 2016
#225
Every bit as reasonable and informed as your post screaming about the Third Way as if it has
Number23
Jun 2016
#242
Thanks for introducing the same talking points that were pioneered by white supremacist groups
YoungDemCA
Jun 2016
#147
to the degree it was about anti-Muslim xenophobia, you would think EU nations...
yurbud
Jun 2016
#90
The side by side pics of actual Nazi propaganda film and Nigel Farage standing in front of that bus
Rex
Jun 2016
#113
People don't like trade deals especially if they feel like it costs them jobs. I guarantee you
craigmatic
Jun 2016
#124
And with a population about as well informed and with the same kind of racist feelings. eom
fleabiscuit
Jun 2016
#127
No because racism doesn't explain it all. I'd vote against NAFTA not because I hate Canada or Mexico
craigmatic
Jun 2016
#130
What you're saying is that those factories were not dependent on location.
fleabiscuit
Jun 2016
#133
This is in the south (GA and AL) and it happened in 1990's. NAFTA still hurried the process along.
craigmatic
Jun 2016
#134
People don't like trade deals because they are economically illiterate racists
YoungDemCA
Jun 2016
#145
People can not like free trade and still not be racist. Free trade is just a policy. Now once
craigmatic
Jun 2016
#181
The people who voted to leave had been left alone to wither due to austerity.
applegrove
Jun 2016
#148
poo, it is not the only reason. Other countries want out too. Control of borders is vital to the
larkrake
Jun 2016
#159
so do we,it's the norm,so we have to look at why so many members want to leave
larkrake
Jun 2016
#168
Either you are being deliberately obtuse or you still don't understand what I said.
auntpurl
Jun 2016
#196
We are SO on the same page! I posted something extremely similar on this in the AA forum
Number23
Jun 2016
#223
As one Brit guy so perfectly said, the main folks cheering this are Putin, Trump and ISIS
Number23
Jun 2016
#224
I think it might be time for a little DU break, until the US forgets about Brexit
auntpurl
Jun 2016
#235