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leftynyc

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83. Sigh

Mon Jun 27, 2016, 04:56 PM

Jun 2016

Are you so busy defending yourself that you forget what you post?

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Yvette Felarca, who said she was a member of the group By Any Means Necessary, told CNN she came out to let people know that racist and anti-immigrant viewpoints would not be tolerated.

"They're not welcome," she said of the TWP rally. "If they trip and fall in the process, good. We succeeded in shutting them down."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/26/us/brawl-at-california-rally/index.html

I guess Yvette Felarca is ignorant when it comes to the First Amendment.

YOU'RE the one who claimed this was a first amendment issue. Free speech is another issue ENTIRELY. That you can't wrap your head around that is your problem alone. Most people here are both free speech and first amendment supporters - we also are quite aware of the difference between the two - unlike you seem to be.

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Insane video. Crowd sees any signs of "Nazis" and they run&attack. A lot of people bleeding/ [View all] riversedge Jun 2016 OP

Frances Who the hell are the Traditionalist Worker Party and why do they cause stabbiness? ~ a neigh riversedge Jun 2016 #1

From the Southern Poverty Law Center: csziggy Jun 2016 #7

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #9

I've read a lot of good things about the SPLC csziggy Jun 2016 #10

Oh really? Do tell. I can't wait. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jun 2016 #13

Oh? Explain. LeftyMom Jun 2016 #17

Southern Poverty Law Center Loki Jun 2016 #34

Don't duh me, I know that. I really want to hear the deleted poster's explanation. LeftyMom Jun 2016 #41

Ironically, the chair of this nazi group protested at SPLC's Civil Rights Memorial pinboy3niner Jun 2016 #50

OH but but but Separation Jun 2016 #54

Maybe it's just me, but I have no idea what you are trying to say. nt pinboy3niner Jun 2016 #55

IN your post Separation Jun 2016 #56

Thankyou for clarifying pinboy3niner Jun 2016 #57

Are you sure you know what the SPLC is? nt sufrommich Jun 2016 #20

Here is a video of a Traditionalist Worker Party member/founder abusing a black women at Trump rally womanofthehills Jun 2016 #45

Also see #50, above. nt pinboy3niner Jun 2016 #51

More on Heimbach and flyer to shut down rally - connected big time to Trump's racism womanofthehills Jun 2016 #53

Counter-protestors calling this group of police "Nazi chauffeurs" @ABC10 riversedge Jun 2016 #2

It's a problem when the crowd attacks a legally organized rally. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #3

It seems, from what I have read, the counter protesters had the intent of riversedge Jun 2016 #8

A legally organized extremely racist rally with violent members womanofthehills Jun 2016 #47

That doesn't change the fact that they had the permit to hold a rally. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #61

Extreme hate speech - Trump seems to be empowering the skinheads womanofthehills Jun 2016 #65

no, those dipshits have rallies all the time, Drumpf doesn't get credit snooper2 Jun 2016 #67

Trump does get some credit for empowering them - egging them on during his rallys womanofthehills Jun 2016 #68

UPDATE: The nazi group, expecting protesters, armed themselves with knives pinboy3niner Jun 2016 #48

From Antifa Sacramento on Facebook - one of the anti-facist groups womanofthehills Jun 2016 #52

Thanks. My impression from various accounts is that most of the casualties were anti-fascists. pinboy3niner Jun 2016 #59

These two groups should have never come with arms reach. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #62

Right Wing Watch has the following on the TWP and its racist history. Ford_Prefect Jun 2016 #4

There has got to be a better way Aerows Jun 2016 #6

Has everybody lost their damn minds? Aerows Jun 2016 #5

Ask the Kochs about that. They paid for it all, it seems. Ford_Prefect Jun 2016 #11

I just spent 20 minutes or so googling variations of koch/trad workers/trump Gabi Hayes Jun 2016 #14

You won't find a link because the Kochs have a network that does for them. Ford_Prefect Jun 2016 #30

Here is what appears to have happened... Meldread Jun 2016 #12

So BAM was in the wrong SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2016 #15

I am not going to attack anyone who attacks my enemies. Meldread Jun 2016 #19

You're not a believer if free speech SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2016 #21

Where did I say I didn't believe in free speech? Meldread Jun 2016 #31

Blocking the view or sound is one thing SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2016 #32

...and where did I advocate that? Meldread Jun 2016 #35

I think there is a difference... liberalmuse Jun 2016 #29

Not in the United States SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2016 #33

I didn't see congress passing a law to forbid it. Scootaloo Jun 2016 #38

From the American Bar Association Android3.14 Jun 2016 #60

BAM is not the government Lordquinton Jun 2016 #36

You're right SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2016 #76

BAM had every right to disrupt the actual Nazis platform Lordquinton Jun 2016 #87

but this group is not just into free speech womanofthehills Jun 2016 #43

"A left wing militant group called BAM" Oh??? And who are they and where did they come from? tenderfoot Jun 2016 #71

Nice SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2016 #16

Life is messy. hunter Jun 2016 #24

I shouldn't be surprised SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2016 #28

You need to brush up on the constitution. Lordquinton Jun 2016 #37

When people/groups see a member of this group on video abusing a black women womanofthehills Jun 2016 #44

You're just another who leftynyc Jun 2016 #72

No group has a right to shut down another group's free speech SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2016 #74

And you don't see me leftynyc Jun 2016 #78

Noting that a group SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2016 #79

It is when you're completely WRONG leftynyc Jun 2016 #80

I never said the government was involved SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2016 #82

Sigh leftynyc Jun 2016 #83

Sigh SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2016 #91

hate speech IronLionZion Jun 2016 #89

It also appears that Nazis are free to abuse and shove black women at Trump rallys womanofthehills Jun 2016 #46

Of course they don't have that right SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2016 #75

In Chicago at that time, the charges against Jake and Elwood would have included amandabeech Jun 2016 #49

t looks like the CA cops weren't prepared for conflicts early, before the rally was to begin pinboy3niner Jun 2016 #58

Perhaps they will be better prepared next time. amandabeech Jun 2016 #66

Why are you scare quoting Nazis? LeftyMom Jun 2016 #18

The Clash of the Morons. nt sufrommich Jun 2016 #22

Sounds like two crazy ass fringe groups brawling in the street. romanic Jun 2016 #23

You've posted since, but haven't answered my question: Why the quotes? They're Nazis. LeftyMom Jun 2016 #25

No love for Nazis. cheapdate Jun 2016 #26

Same here. Hoyt Jun 2016 #27

I support kicking the shit out of nazis Scootaloo Jun 2016 #39

Yeah, I agree. These fucks will NOT be stopped with polite argument........... socialist_n_TN Jun 2016 #42

Yep, anyone today that openly thinks the Swastika is cool is beyond persuasive reach. backscatter712 Jun 2016 #69

This. Curb-stomp the white supremacists mwrguy Jun 2016 #81

The government did not restrict the Nazis from speaking gwheezie Jun 2016 #40

"Beat the fascist!" Now there is some irony. modem77 Jun 2016 #63

Actually, Donald Trump seems to be empowering the fascist group womanofthehills Jun 2016 #64

It warms my heart that there are so many looking out for nazis. tenderfoot Jun 2016 #70

It isn't about looking out for Nazis SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2016 #77

Congress has passed no law forbidding Nazi rallies Scootaloo Jun 2016 #85

Who said they did? n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2016 #86

Well, you keep talking about the first amendment Scootaloo Jun 2016 #90

I keep saying that BAM doesn't believe in the First Amendment SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2016 #92

To those who advocate street-fighting the fascists ... Straw Man Jun 2016 #73

Some of us already have Scootaloo Jun 2016 #84

British knife surrender bin IronLionZion Jun 2016 #88