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10. It should have been Bobby's second term.

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Mon Jun 27, 2016, 09:36 PM

Jun 2016

And it would have been if they hadn't killed him.

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1972 Democratic Party Platform is so progressive as to be off the scale today [View all] andym Jun 2016 OP

Ike in 1956 had a more progressive economic plank than Hillary today. leveymg Jun 2016 #1

they're way farther right of Nixon right now! Pharaoh Jun 2016 #38

If Nixon Were Alive Today, He Would Be Far Too Liberal to Get Even the Democratic Nomination Pharaoh Jun 2016 #40

I did not know that Noam Chomsky said that. FuzzyRabbit Jun 2016 #42

That was a great article! I agree with the final paragraph. CrispyQ Jun 2016 #80

While that sounds a bit crazy treestar Jun 2016 #67

The PTB have managed to brainwash/regress us to pre-New Deal days. merrily Jun 2016 #59

That sums it up perfectly +1000! hobbit709 Jun 2016 #64

Rachel sums it up well. bvar22 Jun 2016 #85

Well... Adrahil Jun 2016 #2

Yes. That platform lost by 49 states to 1. n/t pnwmom Jun 2016 #36

Hard to compare different eras in my opinion. PoliticalMalcontent Jun 2016 #41

The point is that the 1972 platform was off the scale in 1972. pnwmom Jun 2016 #44

I'm not so sure in today's era that PoliticalMalcontent Jun 2016 #45

The OP said that the 1972 platform was so progressive it would be off the scale TODAY. pnwmom Jun 2016 #46

My apologies. PoliticalMalcontent Jun 2016 #49

Not necessary -- but thanks! n/t pnwmom Jun 2016 #54

I think it was more liberal then in many ways. I was there for it. :) nt Mojorabbit Jun 2016 #50

Perhaps so. :) Era of the hippies and all. PoliticalMalcontent Jun 2016 #51

It was not off the scale then, nor is it off the scale now. merrily Jun 2016 #58

Indefinitely? No... Adrahil Jun 2016 #63

No. For many reasons, a war time incumbent won, just as they always have in the US. merrily Jun 2016 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author merrily Jun 2016 #60

McGovern could have run to the right of Nixon and still would have lost. hobbit709 Jun 2016 #65

But he did run on that platform SCantiGOP Jun 2016 #95

And lost 520-17 scscholar Jun 2016 #3

Nixon had a strong economy and had brought an end to the war. It's not as simple as you want to make think Jun 2016 #6

Are you fucking kidding me - FreakinDJ Jun 2016 #19

"But as Andrew Gelman points out, Nixon also had the benefit of a strong economy." think Jun 2016 #20

Touche. ..Just ask Jimmy Carter about the mess he Lance Bass esquire Jun 2016 #30

Nixon's great economy? No, things were awful, he put in place a wage and price freeze HereSince1628 Jun 2016 #61

The peace treaty wasn't signed until after the 1972 election. 1939 Jun 2016 #83

Actually, Nixon war riding high because of racial bigots and hippie haters Warpy Jun 2016 #102

McGovern's landslide loss reversed the movement toward progressive policies andym Jun 2016 #14

whoaaa there, boy! Carter was hamstrung from the getgo by his own PARTY, led Gabi Hayes Jun 2016 #26

Example: Carter really started government deregulation before Reagan andym Jun 2016 #33

And the dirty tricks campaign never happened? No rat fucking? No Watergate? Ford_Prefect Jun 2016 #28

As if. Please see Reply 56 in this thread and the thread to which Reply 56 links. Thank you. merrily Jun 2016 #57

Not me! I'd rather win with terrible ideas! arcane1 Jun 2016 #76

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em! pokerfan Jun 2016 #94

A few yrs earlier Nixon had called for a guaranteed minnimum income loyalsister Jun 2016 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author stopbush Jun 2016 #5

welcome to the club! and just as the media ignored Watergate until after the election Gabi Hayes Jun 2016 #11

Yeah, my first too. mountain grammy Jun 2016 #22

I don't remember any of that stuff, but I DO remember TheDebbieDee Jun 2016 #7

eagleton LIED HIS ASS off to McGovern when directly confronted with info on his Gabi Hayes Jun 2016 #13

It was rejected in a major landslide victory for the Trick Dick. eom MohRokTah Jun 2016 #8

What a lame excuse for giving up on Democratic values. Nixon was president with a strong economy think Jun 2016 #12

And going too far to the left has ALWAYS lost at a national level MohRokTah Jun 2016 #15

"So if you want to lose, go left." Did you really just post that here? think Jun 2016 #21

Yes. I did. MohRokTah Jun 2016 #23

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #29

On the issues, the American people have long been more progressive than their government. leveymg Jun 2016 #66

That sort of polling is 100% irrelevant. MohRokTah Jun 2016 #68

100% irrelevant? Johnson and Carter were both way to the Left of Obama on economic issues. leveymg Jun 2016 #70

Now you're just re-writing history. MohRokTah Jun 2016 #71

What are the new Great Society programs? Any Mideast Peace initiatives, akin to Oslo Accord? leveymg Jun 2016 #72

FDR got elected 4 times. bvar22 Jun 2016 #87

Democrats won the House and the Senate in '72. N/T Chathamization Jun 2016 #27

Thank you for pointing out that very important fact nt vintx Jun 2016 #74

Oh how far America's come since 1972, right? HughBeaumont Jun 2016 #9

Great post! mountain grammy Jun 2016 #25

It should have been Bobby's second term. PSPS Jun 2016 #10

The world and America would probably look very different if RFK had survived andym Jun 2016 #17

Who is the "they"? former9thward Jun 2016 #91

I am proud to say I voted for George Dyedinthewoolliberal Jun 2016 #16

And they still haven't closed the loop holes that export jobs FreakinDJ Jun 2016 #18

Because that's a meaningless phrase, though it has polled well for 50 years Recursion Jun 2016 #32

'Abolishing capital punishment' Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #24

K&R! Thank you for this excellent post. Phlem Jun 2016 #31

Yes indeed. andym Jun 2016 #34

Which is why his chances would have been so dismal in the general. pnwmom Jun 2016 #39

I heartily disagree with your assessment based on a variety of factors. PoliticalMalcontent Jun 2016 #47

That candidate lost by 49 states mostly for other reasons andym Jun 2016 #48

Some like to compare Bernie with McGovern senz Jun 2016 #53

yes +1000 840high Jun 2016 #35

That platform was off the scale in 1972, also -- and our candidate lost in 49 states.n/t pnwmom Jun 2016 #37

He didn't lose because of the platform. progressoid Jun 2016 #86

Almost everyone knew about the guaranteed income plan. That was a key element pnwmom Jun 2016 #90

Meh. Hadn't Nixon already proposed a variation of that a couple years earlier? progressoid Jun 2016 #92

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2016 #43

A platform that got demolished in the general election The Second Stone Jun 2016 #52

men to that. eom BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #55

We gained two Senate seats. progressoid Jun 2016 #88

and this platform led to the greatest defeat of a democratic nominee beachbum bob Jun 2016 #62

Certainly better than wholly owned corporate one we have now. alarimer Jun 2016 #69

A thank you for all of our Third Way friends Uponthegears Jun 2016 #73

Exactly. alarimer Jun 2016 #75

+1,000 arcane1 Jun 2016 #84

Very well said. nm emordnilaP Jun 2016 #89

I remember it well. That platform was just one of the reasons Nixon won in a landslide. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #77

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #78

Me to. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #81

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #82

K&R Kurovski Jun 2016 #79

That's why I think Sanders played such a positive role andym Jun 2016 #96

That's the kind of platform I could support A Little Weird Jun 2016 #93

Times were very different then andym Jun 2016 #99

"McGovern lost because he's too liberal" forjusticethunders Jun 2016 #97

I never said that McGovern lost becase he was too liberal andym Jun 2016 #98

The country moved right for 2 reasons GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #100

How did the Democrats fare that year? liberal N proud Jun 2016 #101