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PatrickforO

(15,398 posts)
2. Stiglitz is right.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 12:57 AM
Jun 2016

The ISDS provisions of TPP are the death knell of local, state and national democracies since they allow corporations to 'sue' governments if they think regulations, such as environmental or safety ones are inhibiting them earning the maximum profits. And then, the 'case' is adjudicated not by a public court, but by corporate-paid 'arbitrators,' and their decision is binding.

Sorry, the TPP is a piece of trash that will finish killing off the American middle class that made this nation great in the first place. It will cost hundreds of thousands of jobs, good ones that have benefits and that you can raise a family on.

If TPP is so great, then why was it negotiated in secret? Why were members of Congress allowed to only read it in a designated room and not allowed to even take notes? Why was a 'fast track' vote rammed down our throats to prevent filibuster and allow a straight up/down vote in Senate? (on edit) Why has there been no platform for public debate?

Sorry, but I'm NOT in consensus around 'free trade' and will never be. It is a disastrous, bad policy. An example? We don't have single payer healthcare even though the Dems had majorities in both Houses of Congress and the Presidency in 2009. We were told that there weren't enough votes, but that could have been changed by the President using the bully pulpit and calling for the millions who campaigned for him, including myself, to march on DC to pressure and shame the Congress into making it happen. Into making the right thing happen! You know why we don't have single payer?

It is against the strictures set forth in another 'free trade' treaty: the General Agreement on Trade in Services (GATS) of 1995. That's right. Single payer would have created what GATS calls a 'service monopoly.' Of course, we COULD have negotiated a waiver with the other signatories on the grounds that health care is a basic right ENJOYED BY THE REST OF THE WORLD EXCEPT FOR US. Or we could have simply overturned GATS in favor of DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

Free trade? Bad idea. Bad policy. We already HAD free movement of goods and services over borders. Free trade treaties are about moving capital. Again, bad idea. Bad policy.

Thus I agree with both Stiglitz and Reich. Check out Reich's short video polemic about TPP on You Tube:

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Stiglitz is wrong, IMO. eom MohRokTah Jun 2016 #1
Care to explain this, or just lob a one sentence bomb and disappear? Feeling the Bern Jun 2016 #6
one sentence bombs DonCoquixote Jun 2016 #9
MohRokTah means "hit and run" in some language. HughBeaumont Jun 2016 #12
OK, so you think he's wrong, but ... nikto Jun 2016 #7
Well my goodness, if you say so... ljm2002 Jun 2016 #16
Stiglitz is right. PatrickforO Jun 2016 #2
Excellent analysis The Second Stone Jun 2016 #3
Those same ISDS provisions have been in worldwide trade agreements since 1959. Suddenly, they are Hoyt Jun 2016 #10
Apparently the provisions go further now, with these latest "partnerships". ronnie624 Jun 2016 #19
What does he know? avaistheone1 Jun 2016 #4
But Obama supports it completely, so it has to be the bee's knees Feeling the Bern Jun 2016 #5
Has anyone noticed how the "Pro-TPP" side NEVER makes actual arguments with support info/evidence? nikto Jun 2016 #8
yep, they never do, the most you will get out of them is that they call you "anti" trade AntiBank Jun 2016 #15
Agreed! nikto Jun 2016 #21
Yet Canada asked to be part of the TPP because they -- like most countries -- know investment Hoyt Jun 2016 #11
yes, governments of nations are always looking out for cali Jun 2016 #13
Yep, they are all corrupt trying to ensure there are enough funds for healthcare, education, Hoyt Jun 2016 #14
''What would Goldman think?'' Octafish Jun 2016 #17
Obama's argument for TPP: Take my word for it. earthshine Jun 2016 #18
K&R (nt). Kurovski Jun 2016 #20
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